Whitehorse Daily Star

Contractor maintains he was right to shoot two wolves in residential area

A man charged with multiple offences for shooting two wolves near residences in the Whitehorse Copper subdivision admits to the act but says he was in the right.

By Christopher Reynolds on November 26, 2013

A man charged with multiple offences for shooting two wolves near residences in the Whitehorse Copper subdivision admits to the act but says he was in the right.

Following a brief territorial court appearance this morning, Clayton Thomas, 32, cited the danger the predator posed and the supposed inaction of government officials.

"I had those wolf tracks right at the front of my house. And I had a wife with a brand new, eight-week-old baby boy.” he told the Star.

"I just can't believe that people don't feel that a hungry wolf is a threat in a residential area.”

Several wolves were seen in the Mount Sima neighbourhood this past spring. Numerous members of the community, including Thomas, had called Environment Yukon with concerns, he noted.

Thomas said the strongest response came in the form of a suggestion to one of his neighbours to drape a jacket over a shovel in the driveway and urinate around it to ward off would-be prowlers.

In April, the remains of a dog were found following a wolf attack, the second such incident.

"When they kill dogs, they don't stop. They have the taste for them. Dogs are easy,” he said.

Thomas had been living in the area for five years without hearing of a wolf sighting. Now there was ample evidence.

That month, Thomas shot one wolf near the site where the dog had been killed. One week later, he shot the other one at the same spot.

"I safely took care of those wolves. There was a backstop, a big bank,” he said.

Thomas, a general construction contractor and lifelong Yukoner who grew up in Teslin, is an experienced hunter and trapper, he said.

In early May, four conservation officers showed up at his door with a search warrant.

They seized 47 items, including his phones, computer, and his wife's phone and computer.

All his rifles were seized, along with five wolf pelts in his shop from wolves he trapped last winter, 10 marten furs and four wolverine pelts.

"I'm still in awe. I can't stop questioning how the government feels they were entitled and warranted to come through my house,” Thomas said.

"I'm not a murderer, I'm not a drug dealer, I'm not a child pornographer. But I get treated like all three above.”

Thomas said he understands the conservation officers "were just doing their jobs,” but sees the extensive effort and money put into the case as an example of bureaucracy run amuck.

"Twenty years ago, we didn't rely on the government to take care of us like that. Why can't we take care of ourselves now?” he asked.

Thomas also cited the big expense of hiring a lawyer, one he hasn't undertaken yet but plans to.

"It turned my life upside down.”

Thomas has been charged with nine violations of the Wildlife Act, including hunting near a residence, hunting out of season and careless use of a firearm.

Killing of animals is tightly regulated in residential areas. It is illegal to hunt within one kilometre of a residence without the permission of the occupants.

"One of the factors is, is the wolf posing a threat to anybody,” said Environment Yukon spokeswoman Nancy Campbell.

"If a wolf is simply walking by a property, it may not be posing a threat to anyone. Whether a wolf poses a threat or not — and the options for responding — are set out in the guidelines..."

Campbell pointed to rules set out on the Environment Yukon website.

"While prevention is the best way to avoid human-wildlife conflict, we recognize that sometimes incidents are unavoidable. The Wildlife Act does allow you to kill wildlife in self-defense and, in some cases, in defense of property," the site states.

"Killing of wildlife for these reasons seldom happens in Yukon, however.”

Thomas was skeptical, particularly at the supposed unresponsiveness of officials to pre-empt predator run-ins — though not in prosecuting violations after they occurred.

"How am I supposed to protect myself, just sit there and wait for the wolf to come?”

Thomas is due in court again Jan. 14, 2014.

Comments (43)

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Dany Boisvert on Dec 6, 2013 at 6:58 am

A simple question, whats more dangerous to humans, wolves or a law breaking Careless Use Of A Firearm guy in a city! All I know is that many more people get killed from careless use of firearms than wolves, with a wife and children I'm just glad that this guy ain't my neighbor!!!

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Will M on Dec 6, 2013 at 12:44 am

@Julius Caesar - there have been 2 documented in North America in the past 100 years. Good point!

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Julius Caesar on Dec 2, 2013 at 1:40 pm

All you trigger happy, bright sparks tell me: How may people have been killed by wolves over the past century?

This happy hunter has been reading too many fairy tales and while doing so, likely puffed on something that aggravated his nightmares. He should rather have fed the old skinny wolf some of his other kills.

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woodcutter on Dec 2, 2013 at 5:44 am

The guy has no remorse and has a feeling of entitlement, denies wrong doing.

Same behavior traits as a sociopath.



They come into your house, to search for evidence, due to discharging of a firearm and later bragging about your "kill". Take note, when you break the law you open yourself to having your basket of dirty underwear searched, and so you should.

Good for the CO's this guy's a menace, should have a lifetime ban on firearms use, lifetime ban on hunting privileges and some nice hefty fine.

Disgusting behavior

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Will M on Dec 2, 2013 at 4:35 am

Perhaps Clayton and others on this board should read Bob Hayes book Wolves of the Yukon in order to learn more about the behaviour of wolves and gain some much needed respect for this amazing animal.

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Just Say'in on Dec 1, 2013 at 8:44 am

The government now knows best for everything in our lives and we should not question them or we will be in peril. Some CO could shoot that wolf or about fifty bears in a year and it would not be a problem, because of course they are government workers and they know best. They can put up signs everywhere in the back country stating snowmobiles must stay away from Caribou because they are so fragile and shouldn't be bothered but the CO's charter helicopters and chase them at high speed down mountain sides, collar them and punch a hole in their ear and tag them. Now I suppose that doesn't stress the animal at all does it??? What a bunch of Hypocrites.

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Stan Boutillier on Nov 30, 2013 at 5:26 pm

I do not think Clayton needs to spend much if any time in jail. Young family, he needs to make a living etc.

I think he should pay a fine of about $2000, have his gun taken away, have to do some community service, and perhaps take a creative writing course at the college.

I guess community service associated with trapping and hunting ethics is out, he is not a role model. Maybe he could teaching his contracting skills to residents of the local jail.

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DMZ on Nov 30, 2013 at 2:18 pm

YTG Hypocrites, the Yukon's sordid history with wolf kills is nothing to brag about.

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R B Campbell on Nov 30, 2013 at 10:02 am

Between 1982 and 1997 the Yukon Government destroyed approx 860 wolves mostly shot from helicopters.To the people who have charged Mr.Thomas make sure this never crosses your mind.

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YTG Hypocrites on Nov 30, 2013 at 3:53 am

Am I correct in remembering YTG paying people a bounty to shoot wolves not that long ago? And conducting shooting of wolves from helicopters themselves?

My, my how things have changed, now that's the pot calling the kettle black isn't it?

20 odd years ago he would have probably been paid $100 for his actions. Today the same officials are charging him with multiple crimes!

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Joel on Nov 29, 2013 at 4:33 pm

With the extra info now available, the computers and cell phones were seized due to the alleged bragging he was doing to all of his friends through pictures and texts. When they entered the house, he also had the hides hung in his garage, not removed and reported like you would if you were experienced and defended yourself.

He also does not have a trapping license for all the pelts he ended up having.

The good guy argument for removing a dangerous animal, where did the other 3 wolf pelts come from? If you are that afraid of wild animals, maybe the Yukon is not a good place for you.

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Alice Cyr on Nov 29, 2013 at 7:12 am

One of my most magical Yukon moments was when a black wolf walked through my yard in Tagish. In the Yukon we live with all sorts of wildlife that has the potential to harm us, but when you shoot an animal that is exhibiting no ill intentions towards you, then you have become the aggressor. However much you pontificate and portend innocence, the fact remains that you shot an animal needlessly and it is you that is at fault.

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Pickitywitch on Nov 28, 2013 at 10:44 am

Clayton

if you are indeed a contractor and wanted to live in the deep woods, you should have built your house from bricks! Everyone knows that this is the best way to protect yourself from big bad wolves. If the sneaky, rascally wolf decides to attack by coming down the chimney then simply fill a large cauldron full of water and boil it in the fire place. The wolf will fall in and get a nasty burn on his backside and you will get the last laugh...... Ha ha ha!

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bobby bitman on Nov 28, 2013 at 8:08 am

I just re-read the article more carefully and Clayton shot the wolves in APRIL!! Which means they almost certainly WERE feeding pups!

Throw the freaking book at him. That is just sick. The wolf pups no doubt starved to death.

This man has no conscience. Did he really think his 8 week old kid was going to run outside and get eaten? Oh I doubt that very much. He just had to get his kill on, rules, decency, laws thrown aside.

I have just firmly concluded that dear Clayton should reap the same inconsideration as he sowed.

Clayton, you did what you wanted to do and were either so ignorant of wolves that you did not know that they have pups in the spring, or you just did not give a D.

Now it is your turn, and I hope you lose your hunting license and your gun licenses. You are unworthy to have either.

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north of 60 on Nov 28, 2013 at 6:36 am

The COs overreaction was draconian police state tactics. That's the big issue here.

Guilt and innocence is determined by the courts, not biased public opinion.

For every law there are justifiable exceptions, that's why we have courts.

Would you prefer that the cops become "judge, jury and executioner", or perhaps lynch mobs would be better?

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no name on Nov 28, 2013 at 6:14 am

I am just going to point this out for all of his supporters if you are concerned for you/your family safety there are rules. If you kill an animal in self defense you contact conservation officers and they remove the entire animal, must not be skinned, tanned, mounted etc.,

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Yukoner1 on Nov 28, 2013 at 4:58 am

The guy shot 2 wolves, is it really necessary to seize computers, cell phones and rummage through underwear drawers? Seems a little much...

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R.C on Nov 28, 2013 at 1:16 am

@ north of 60

When the person freely admits to killing the animals then I'm sorry to point out to you that this isn't just a ‘witch hunt'. Wolves were not in season, they weren't even on his property at the time so there was no immediate danger to his family or his person. Also there are laws against discharging a firearm within a kilometer of a residence whether it is occupied or not, please review the laws before trying to justify the actions of this man. He's only fighting the charges because he believes he was justified, he will have to prove that in court.

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Sima Res on Nov 28, 2013 at 12:21 am

Ah North of 60, yes he did break the law.

It is illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits, he has admitted to doing that.

It is illegal to shoot wildlife out of season and in the city limits, he has admitted to doing that.

The question for the judge will not be whether or not he broke the law, but whether there was mitigating circumstances, or whether the department of Environment overstepped their authority.

I live within a km of this yahoo and I absolutely don't feel safer with him in the neighbourhood.

In case you want to tar me with the "another city know nothing" brush. I was born in the Yukon, I hunt and fish, and grew up in the outdoors. Oh and even though I live less than a km away I have never had a problem with wolves. Maybe because I don't leave dog food outdoors.

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Will M on Nov 28, 2013 at 12:04 am

He actually did break the law, north of 60. The court case making it official just hasn't happened yet. Only 2 wolves in 100 years have been documented to have killed people in all of North America so I hardly doubt that the wolves Clayton shot were going to be the 3rd and 4th.

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piper on Nov 27, 2013 at 10:04 pm

I guess one should use a silencer or a crossbow in order to appease the nervous nellies if they don't know a dangerous animal has just been shot & a possible life saved .... the better. In my opinion the only thing Clayton did wrong is failing to use a 'no one knows' option like the ones I mentioned above. Bravo Mr.Thomas.

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Groucho d'North on Nov 27, 2013 at 11:21 am

The larger concern for me is the draconian processes employed by the Conservation Officers where personal property was searched and seized, and their home ransacked in compliance with some policy process for evidence gathering. What happened to discretion? Surely this violation did not warrant the jack-booted approach the government used on this family. To seize cell phones, computers and other similar property is over the top by any reasonable person's definition.

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Whitehorse lifer on Nov 27, 2013 at 11:15 am

I don't get the point of the c.o's trying to charge Clayton with what he did. It's complete bs. He shot 2 wolves because he was protecting his family and his yard plus he was protecting the neighbourhood he was living in and looking out for his neighbours. There was no warning signs of wolves in the area. But look at all the warnings when a bear comes into the area and people want the bear taken care of right away. People need to grow up. Wolves and bears hunt and kill they have a food chain just like everyone else. If someone would have got mauled or attacked people would have complained about that and it would have gotten swept under the rug. But since Clayton shot 2 wolves out of season it's headline news. That's a joke.

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Porcupine on Nov 27, 2013 at 9:07 am

I had wolf encounters in the past. Including getting one of my dogs attacked by wolves and wolves walking right through my yard. I took measures to protect my dogs and my safety without going wild and ignoring the law and I'm here to tell the story. Clayton broke the law and has to face it.

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sandi on Nov 27, 2013 at 9:04 am

Clayton should have to pay and loose his hunting/ firearms privileges, he talks about being a experienced hunter and trapper, he is not.

Trappers don't shoot the animals for nothing, and why didn't he report it to the Conversation officers when he did it the first time, especially if he didn't have anything to hide. I disagree with him, what makes him so special he needs to go back to his roots where he comes from, he has never lived on the land, he should be ashamed.

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Thomas Brewer on Nov 27, 2013 at 8:51 am

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.” – Thomas Jefferson

Beyond the obviousness of the above quote, WTF is all this about seizing phones, computers, and legally trapped pelts?

Sounds like a witch hunt to me.

Shame, YG, shame!

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BnR on Nov 27, 2013 at 8:40 am

This is not an issue of wolf control. Its not an issue of how we are ostensibly turning into Toronto.

We have laws. We have them for good reasons, and we can't pick and choose who is bound to those laws, we all are. Taking the law into ones own hands is vigilante justice. If you all feel Clayton was justified, think very carefully about that, because that would also mean that if I was a neighbour of yours, and was mad at your dog, I could shoot it. Or a myriad of other acts of one taking the law into your own hands.

Before the RNWMP came to Dawson, vigilante justice was common. Perhaps this was the "good old days" that some of you are referring to.

One other thing to consider, COs are damned if they do and damned if they don't, like most law enforcement agencies. If they had shot the wolves, there would have been an outcry as well.

You can sign me life long Yukon hunter and member of the Whitehorse Rifle and Pistol Club. I obey the laws.

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north of 60 on Nov 27, 2013 at 8:31 am

No BnR and R.C. Thomas did not break the law, he ALLEGEDLY broke the law. That's a big difference in a just society. That's why we don't let witch hunt mentality and guilt by media inference run rampant.

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JayDangles on Nov 27, 2013 at 8:21 am

Here's the deal.

Clayton may have acted with the best of intentions... to rid himself, and others of a problem animal.

I'm an avid hunter, father and dog owner. I understand the responsibility one has to protect his own. However, I would never do something to jeopardize my ability to be a future hunter, father or animal owner. In other words, I would never hunt out of season or discharge a rifle near a residence. The risk greatly outweighs the reward.

I have lost 2 dogs to wolves which came onto our property and scooped them off the porch. I hate the wolves for it, but I am not a registered trapper, so I can't snare them, and I live too close to other houses to shoot them.

So I exercise restraint.. that my friends is why Clayton is being charged... because he did not exercise restraint...... the determining factor between a hunter and a person with guns.... restraint.

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bobby bitman on Nov 27, 2013 at 8:20 am

I would rather see the wolves shot than choked to death by Conservation Officer snares. (which are as likely to snare and choke a dog to death as a wolf) I do not like Clayton's attitude, demanding that the legitimacy of his actions not be questioned, or that he is somehow a 'real Yukoner' because he left his home with a gun and traveled some distance to 'deal with' two wolves on two separate occasions. I really have a hard time siding with a person with such a macho attitude about killing. But on the whole, if these wolves did kill that dog, I would say they brought their own deaths upon themselves. That area is a transition zone where human civilization and domesticity (read, Clayton), meets with true wilderness. There are going to be waves and froth in these areas. These wolves kill for a living, nothing personal, and this time they got killed. At least it was not in the spring when they may have had pups to look after.

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M.L on Nov 27, 2013 at 6:33 am

My only comment is why does the Headline start of with "Contractor.." What does this have to with anything?

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R. C. on Nov 27, 2013 at 4:19 am

Whether one agrees with this man or not; the fact of the matter remains that he broke the law and now he must face the consequences of his actions.

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spud on Nov 27, 2013 at 2:41 am

Clayton acted correctly and sensibly.

I have lived in several northern communities in Sask & Manitoba where wolves threatened residents and killed several dogs. The conservation people were no help, no common sense and same attitude shown here.

Fortunately the RCMP in those days had some common sense and shot the wolves dead. That solved the problem - wolves are extremely smart and avoid areas that are a threat to them.

Piling on a bunch of charges is stupid, it is an attempt to punish Clayton by forcing him to pay thousands of dollars for a lawyer and perhaps strike a deal to plead guilty to some and stay or withdraw the rest.

Years ago the Judges would not allow such bullying, thus forcing the investigators to investigate and use common sense and discretion. The system has gone to hell. In future Clayton should just keep his mouth shut as others do and dispose of the evidence remembering if 2 people know, that is one too many.

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Big Bad Wolf on Nov 27, 2013 at 1:05 am

Mr. Thomas if you choose to live in wilderness, then you take on the risks and responsibility of living close and with wildlife.

No that does not give you the right to walk down streets and shoot wild animals.

I don't often side with YTG, but on this one you are in the wrong.

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Yukoner on Nov 26, 2013 at 3:03 pm

Some things I realize after living in various communities around the Yukon my entire life. 1. Lately 'Whitehorse' and 'Yukon' are two totally separate things, with Whitehorse being some small wannabe reincarnation of any city down south thanks to the majority of it's residents now being from elsewhere and having expectations based on the life experience they brought from other places.

2. Territorial government officials have justified their existence over the last few decades by writing up more and more laws to control every aspect of our lives. The younger generation now just accepts that as normal...

3. The Yukon way of life that we knew in the 60s,70's and even 80's is disappearing.

4. If you want to experience what the Yukon was and all the freedom that used to come from living here you now have to move a lot further north.

What Mr. Thomas did was perfectly normal and acceptable, hell even expected, throughout the Yukon as far as I can remember back and now suddenly it's a problem?

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DMZ on Nov 26, 2013 at 3:02 pm

This is bad news. A guy with guns who refuses to follow a law he doesn't like.

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Whitehorse lifer on Nov 26, 2013 at 12:49 pm

I support what Clayton did. Everyone thinks it was wrong what he did, but to the people that don't just think for one second what would you do if the wolf or wolves attacked your dog or one of your children. You would be screaming at environment Yukon about the wolves in your yard attacking someone or something. You guys really need to grow up and really look at where you live. We live in the wilderness and things are going to happen. Good job Clayton 2 less wolves we need to worry about killing people or pets.

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BnR on Nov 26, 2013 at 12:33 pm

Sigh, here we go again.

North of 60, Clayton broke the law.

Yukon Wildlife Act, section 10, Carelesss Use Of A Firearm.

C of W bylaw 127, Firearms Bylaw.

These are the laws. Clayton broke them. End of story.

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Sam Finklestream on Nov 26, 2013 at 10:39 am

"How am I supposed to protect myself, just sit there and wait for the wolf to come?”

You're right, Clayton. Next thing you know he'd have started to huff and puff, right outside your door- not my writing but its very fitting, thanks for that RED.

Clayton seems a little too full of the bad wolf dogma.

I have dealt with the CO's a number of times. They are very professional, tolerant and congenial and some are good hockey players. They take the Wildlife Act seriously as do Yukon residents (did you hear that Clayton?). If you feel compelled to take the law into your own hands you will be treated professionally but be prepared for the long arm of the law to catch up with you. I cannot wait to see the outcome of this case.

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north of 60 on Nov 26, 2013 at 10:14 am

According to some, Thomas should have waited till some kid got mauled or worse before doing something, since the game-cops obviously didn't care. His only mistake was getting caught by using a noisy firearm.

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Red on Nov 26, 2013 at 9:23 am

"How am I supposed to protect myself, just sit there and wait for the wolf to come?”

You're right, Clayton. Next thing you know he'd have started to huff and puff, right outside your door.

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sandi on Nov 26, 2013 at 8:16 am

what gives him the right to shoot and kill them, it's not like the wolves were knocking on his door to harm him, he should not be allowed to hunt or have a firearms at all any more.

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north of 60 on Nov 26, 2013 at 8:02 am

Thomas was correct and justified in his actions. It is legal to use a firearm against predatory wildlife.

Some conservation officers overreact.

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