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ANNOUNCEMENT WELCOMED – John Burdek, right, chair of the Yukon Fish and Wildlife Management Board, announced Wednesday night the board is extending for three months the public input period for three controversial moose management proposals put forward by the Yukon government. Vice-chair Ken Taylor is on the left. Inset: Christine Cleghorn, left, and Sophie Czetwertynski.

Consultation extended for moose management proposals

The Yukon Fish and Wildlife Management Board has extended the period for input on three controversial government proposals regarding management of moose in the territory.

By Chuck Tobin on December 12, 2019

The Yukon Fish and Wildlife Management Board has extended the period for input on three controversial government proposals regarding management of moose in the territory.

Board chair John Burdek made the announcement at Wednesday night’s public meeting to gather feedback on 14 proposed changes to wildlife regulations and management strategies.

Before the discussion even got started, Burdek announced the extension, a rare move on the board’s part.

Under routine practice, the board uses the public meeting as the last opportunity to gather input before finalizing its recommendations to the Environment minister on specific proposals.

Burdek told the standing-room-only audience the decision to extend the public input period was made earlier in the day in light of a substantial concern that the public needed more time to digest the proposed changes in moose management.

The additional three months are meant to provide more time for people to absorb the proposals, he said.

Such was the concern that a letter was sent last Friday to deputy minister John Bailey of Environment Yukon from a coalition of five major organizations requesting his department withdraw it’s proposals altogether.

Graham Van Tighem, the board’s executive director, said this morning the letter to Bailey was not a factor in the decision to provide the three-month extension. The letter, he pointed out, was not sent to the board.

Van Tighem said what the board did consider was more than 500 responses to the board’s online survey regarding this year’s proposed changes.

The number one comment was they needed more time to consider the government’s moose management proposals, he said.

Executive director Gord Zealand of the Yukon Fish and Game Association said this morning while the proposals were not withdrawn as requested, the extension does provide additional time people were looking for.

As evidenced at last night’s meeting, hunters and anglers have a lot of knowledge to bring to the table, knowledge that the board needs to hear, he said.

Zealand said he didn’t know if the letter to the deputy minister played into the board’s extension.

“I would suggest that it certainly didn’t hurt,” he said. “When you have that many organizations, all involved in the outdoors, all onside with the same concerns, you know you have an issue.”

The 14 proposed changes to regulations and policy before the board range from the controversial moose proposals to reducing the catch and possession limits for burbot in all Yukon lakes.

There’s a proposal to increase the requirements for trappers to report their fur harvest, and a recommendation to remove the slot limit for northern pike in Teslin Lake.

There are two proposals regarding roadside hunting of grizzly bears, proposals that have incited passionate public debate over several years. But last night, it was mostly about moose.

As is routine, the board released the 14 proposals in early November to gather public input before its December meeting to consider recommendations to the minister.

Environment Yukon is proposing to empower the Environment minister with a number of tools to restrict harvest levels without having to go through the management board review process each and every time.

It wants the minister to be able to vary the length of the hunting season in different management zones, impose restrictions on the use of off-road vehicles, cap the harvest levels or impose permit hunts.

It also wants the minister to have the ability to require that harvest of moose be based on the size antlers, so that hunters take the youngest or oldest moose, but not the prime breeders.

The department is also recommending a permit hunt or other means of reducing the harvest along the South Canol Road between Quiet Lake and Ross River.

It is recommending the Sifton-Miners Range north of Whitehorse be placed on a permit hunt, with other management options including a requirement to hunt by antler configuration.

As one member of the audience put it last night: if there was a prohibition against off-road vehicles in the Sifton-Miners Range, there would not be the concern over the dwindling moose population.

The Mayo Renewable Resource Council is also seeking a cap on the harvest of bulls in the Mayo area. It’s seeking a requirement that hunters report their harvest within 72 hours, so that when the threshold has been reached, the area can be closed, just like it is currently in the Faro area.

Currently, the minister has the authority to enact emergency measures, including complete closures without any discussion with the board, which is the primary instrument for wildlife management in the territory.

But if the department wants to modify the harvest level or impose a permit hunt in a particular game management subzone, it currently has to go through the management board review, each and every time.

Christine Cleghorn, the director of the fish and wildlife branch, told the audience it can take four years from start to finish to get a proposal into regulations.

Four years are a long time when you’re talking about vulnerable moose populations, Cleghorn suggested.

She said the department is not looking to implement all the additional tools it seeks for managing moose populations. What it wants is to have those tools available, without having to go through a four-year process, she explained.

She insisted the government seeks to enable those tools, not to enact them.

“In the proposal what we are saying is give us the ability to use more tools,” she said.

The adaptive management proposal does lay out a process where the local renewable resource councils and the wildlife management board would be consulted if Environment Yukon wanted to initiate further restrictions. On matters of local interest, the renewable resource council’s would be consulted, says the proposal. With their support, the department would forward its recommendation to the minister for approval. The proposal says if there was no support from the resource council, the government would go back to the drawing board. On matters affecting the entire territory, the wildlife management board would be consulted.

The audience heard last night there is evidence to suggest there are areas that are already at their sustainable harvest levels, or over.

The audience heard there is evidence to suggest there are areas that are already at their sustainable harvest levels, or over.

Southern Lakes regional biologist Lars Jessup explained to the audience the specific concerns with the South Canol and the Sifton-Miners Range.

On the South Canol, the harvest by licensed Yukon hunters and hunters with big game outfitters are already harvesting the maximum sustainable harvest of 15 bulls annually, before the harvest by Indigenous hunters is even factored in, he said.

As a rule of thumb, he explained, the department estimates the harvest by Indigenous hunters is the same as the harvest by licensed hunters.

The graph presented by the biologist showed that when combining the harvest by licensed, Indigenous and big game hunters, the annual harvest along the South Canol has been over the sustainable level in 22 of the 24 years up to and including 2018. (Stats for 2019 not included.)

In many years, it’s been more than double the sustainable level of 15, the graph shows.

In the Sifton-Miners Range north of Whitehorse, the sustainable annual harvest of 13 moose has been exceeded in four of the five years up to 2018, without factoring in the Indigenous harvest, Jessup pointed out.

Moose biologist Sophie Czetwertynski said when a harvest is at or above sustainable levels, it is time to restrict the harvest.

The thing is when a moose population in a particular area begins to decline and is in trouble, they are very difficult if not impossible to recover, she suggested.

Czetwertynski noted that part of the equation is the increasing ability of hunters to access areas with off-road vehicles, along with the increasing number of hunters that come with population growth.

The vast majority of moose harvested in the Yukon are taken south of Dawson City, and between 65 and 70 per cent are shot by hunters from Whitehorse, she explained.

There were many questions from the audience, and many observations.

The science Environment Yukon was basing its conclusions on was challenged. There were comments that the First Nations that are not making their harvest information available should be bringing more to the management.

There were questions about some of the new management tools being recommended, such as shortening the hunting season in some areas.

There were suggestions, such as considering issuing permits to groups of hunters, so that when four of five go out, they shoot one moose instead of five.

Comments (24)

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Yukoner75 on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:52 pm

@Sheesh - I would never work for government again. Been there and done that but nice try. So maybe take off your tinfoil hat and realize that it isn't just the "evil" government and their minions that have had enough of the union. Many of us private sector folks feel the same way. Ironically I would guess that you must be an NDP staffer or union worker to assume I must be a Liberal for daring to speak against the sacred snake.

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Joe on Dec 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm

@ patti eyre, I assume your somewhat racial comment “ white hunters” defines those who require hunting licenses and seals in order to hunt in Yukon? Those with mandatory requirements including seasons, locations, sexes ? Those subjected to the hunting regulations and other Yukon laws? Although I’m not a white guy I guess that makes me a white hunter.
I don’t know any white hunters who hunt year round or poach or do as they please. I do however know indigenous people who shoot whatever they want, whatever sex they choose and wherever they want, pretty much do as they please. While no ones disputes the right to sustenance hunting, most of us feel the right is abused by some and in order to accurately manage wildlife it should be mandatory reporting by all and equal laws for everyone. I do agree on your outfitter comment.

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Simon on Dec 18, 2019 at 3:34 pm

Yukoner75, thanks for saying that. Good on the government for making better use of salaries paid and attempting to modernize and cut costs. Boo to YEU for complaining and picketing when no one is really upset in the first place.

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Yukoner79 on Dec 18, 2019 at 3:23 pm

Dear lord help us if ol' Frosty has the last say. No more hunting. Moose must be left for the FNs. No more fishing. Fish are for the FNs. Don't you dare ride your quad. That territory is FNs. We have seen enough, and it is getting dangerously divided. That's the government's fault, trying to cater...

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shhheesh on Dec 18, 2019 at 3:18 pm

Yukoner75 - you try hard to sound like someone you're not, but your Liberal Staffer side is showing again hehehe. Your "convince the world that Liberals are good through bullsh**ting them" is easy to see through.

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Patti Eyre on Dec 18, 2019 at 2:08 pm

@madmax what you accuse me of doing you are doing yourself, your accusation that first nations don't feel any obligation to anyone for anything is baseless. How about instead of making these kind of comments you go out and learn something?

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comen sense on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:48 am

These people were off by a huge number a few years back on the status of porcupine Cariboo numbers then realized a couple of years later it wasn't so bad. We have a draw every year, what happened two years ago? I am all for conservation but always worry when it comes to government management.

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Max Mack on Dec 17, 2019 at 4:53 pm

@Patti Eyre
Your assertion that "whites", as a class, poach game year-round is baseless. Of course, there are always bad apples. There are laws to deal with the law-breakers and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Contrary to your assertion, most "white" hunters care deeply about the environment and the animals they hunt.

Your issue appears to be with commenters that have complained about FN harvesting. Spring hunts, cows, calves, pregnant cows, and over-hunting are considered "traditional" rights. Not only that, but FN do not feel any obligation to report their kills to anybody. Not only does this create an uneven playing field - one that is rife for misuse - but places serious blinders on the so-called "scientists" that are trying to manage wildlife populations.

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David on Dec 17, 2019 at 8:47 am

The Yukon Fish and Wildlife Management Board has extended the period for input on three controversial government proposals regarding management of moose in the territory - where and how can I provide my input? Would be nice if the article mentioned this.

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Einstein on Dec 17, 2019 at 6:41 am

Looking at the moose sustainability graph it indicates over harvesting by 100% for most of 20 years. If this was the case would there be any moose left?? How good is the science?

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Miles Epanhauser on Dec 16, 2019 at 7:47 pm

It seems odd that the land claims process is so far along and there are no moose harvest statistics.
This has to change for the benefit of the resource and all user groups.

Think the YF&WMB should reflect upon their usefulness. If they cannot implement a way of obtaining harvest statistics the board should resign.

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Anie on Dec 16, 2019 at 12:23 pm

Bean, nothing in chapter 16 prevents FN's from collecting and sharing data. Doing so would be helpful in making sound decisions. Isn't that what everyone would want?

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Bean on Dec 15, 2019 at 10:25 pm

Instead of trying to be a bunch of Inspector Cluelesses, why not take 10 minutes out of your busy lives and read a Yukon First Nation Final Agreement, focus on Chapter 16.

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Yukoner75 on Dec 15, 2019 at 10:04 pm

@MaxMack The reason government is so huge and uncontrollable is the Yukon Employees Union or YEU for short. They are like a boa constrictor failing to let the government cut or even move employees. Look at the recent moves by YG to cut out the middle man in Central Stores and Queen's Printer. No one even lost their job yet the union has gone batcrap crazy attacking the liberals because they dared to make a small sensible move. I was never much of a liberal gal before, but seeing them stand up to 'Big Union' like this is making me consider supporting them next time.

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Groucho d'North on Dec 14, 2019 at 8:32 am

Once again, harvest plans are being made without the data of the first nations being made public. We can only assume it is controversial, otherwise why work so hard to hide it away?

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Max Mack on Dec 13, 2019 at 6:28 pm

"science". When it comes to wild animal populations, biologists are relying on guess work.
As other commenters have pointed out, there is also no record-keeping of First Nations harvests.

But one thing is clear, government - of every stripe - is seeking more authority to enact more arbitrary power over ordinary citizens. Sadly, government in the Yukon has grown so large that it exists solely to please itself.

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Townsend Whelen on Dec 13, 2019 at 4:00 pm

First of all, whatever the outfitters Moose quota is, as established but the LRCs, cut it in half. The responsible ones won't be affected, but the ones taking everything they can will be curtailed. The outfitters who operate in areas without LRCs, put them on severe quotas. The minster has this authority.
Secondly, any Moose harvested by licensed hunters must be harvested under two tags. There are very, very, very few households that need a whole Moose. This will eliminate the I-shoot-one-cause-I-can harvests.
Thirdly, Moose or Bison, pick one. If you harvest a Moose, you can't get a Bison tag. If it's about filling the freezer, the Bison is pretty effective and will cut down the pressure on the Moose populations.

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Wes on Dec 13, 2019 at 3:50 pm

Once again residents will be bearing the brunt of any regulation change.
When will we get a government that speaks for us? The YP was the outfitters party and it appears that the Libs are there the for outfitters and First Nations.

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Kooter on Dec 13, 2019 at 3:45 pm

Also using 6 or 8 year old survey results, or basing decisions on a single old survey. What other factors affected that particular year?

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Patti Eyre on Dec 13, 2019 at 2:51 pm

Why is the big black elephant being ignored? White hunters hunt year round whether they admit it or not, they poach and kill and pretty much do as they please. Outfitters also have unbelievable quotas and the rest of us who hunt ethically are getting jammed up. PS I don’t really hunt. I’m vegan, but my points are just as valid as Joe.

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David Anderson on Dec 13, 2019 at 8:53 am

"It also wants the minister to have the ability to require that harvest of moose be based on the size antlers, so that hunters take the youngest or oldest moose, but not the prime breeders."

Another regulation that would further decrease my odds of harvesting a moose. I have enough trouble locating moose that I can harvest as it is. With this regulation I would not only need to find a moose in the right zone, at the right time of day, but I'd also need to find one that's either young or old. Oh, and I'd also need to be 100% sure that the moose is old or young. What if I pull the trigger and am wrong? A $50,000 fine?

I might as well sell my guns, or hire a hunting guide for that $50,000.

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moose101 on Dec 13, 2019 at 7:38 am

Most the licensed hunters (that's non first nation) agree that we all share the land and to manage it we need information from all participants to develop a plan. With no harvest information from first nations it's like planning a Christmas dinner and not knowing how many are coming to eat.

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Joe on Dec 12, 2019 at 8:50 pm

Why is the big white elephant being ignored? Indigenous groups hunt in the spring, over harvest and pretty much do as they please. Outfitters have unbelievable quotas and the only guy getting penalized is me when I hunt ethically for sustenance.

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Jim on Dec 12, 2019 at 8:08 pm

I’m still struggling with the fact that we are trying to use science without everyone participating in harvesting amounts. How can we have exact figures if we don’t know and assume? And the Minister can on their own change the rules without consulting any of the groups. Is this just to appease certain groups or people or to contradict science. I think we are walking on very thin ice.

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