Consolidation cost spirals; feds contribute $15 M
The federal government will put more than $15.2 million into the city’s mammoth building consolidation project.
By Stephanie Waddell on May 6, 2016
The federal government will put more than $15.2 million into the city’s mammoth building consolidation project.
The commitment came at a press conference held this morning at the city’s Municipal Services Building on Fourth Avenue.
Yukon MP Larry Bagnell and Mayor Dan Curtis took to the mic along with Trent Egglestone, the city’s equipment supervisor.
The funding Bagnell announced will go toward planning and site preparation for the first phase of the proposed operations building off Range Road near Two Mile Hill.
The overall project would ultimately see a large new operations centre there as well as a service building – for day to day services used by the public – downtown at the city hall site on Second Avenue.
The two sites would take in many city functions now scattered at various spots.
The entire project had initially been estimated to cost around $55 million.
As officials have looked at it further though, those costs have soared considerably.
Just the operations site is now estimated to cost a total of $73 million once all the services for that site have been built, said city manager Christine Smith.
The services building is anticipated to cost another $15 million.
For now, officials are focused on getting the first phase of the operations building planned and built before it looks at future phases for the site, such as moving the transit base up there.
As officials noted this morning, the focus for the first phase will be moving the departments and staff who currently work in the Municipal Services Building to the new site once it is built.
The funding announcement from the federal government will go a long way to getting that done, Curtis said, stressing the urgency of the project.
“We have no more time to waste,” he said.
The Municipal Services Building is inefficient, doesn’t fit the neighbourhood (it’s viewed as a non-conforming use under the zoning bylaw) and isn’t in a good condition, he said.
Some staff, Curtis pointed out, have worked in the substandard building for more than 30 years.
“And it was a piece of garbage back then,” he commented.
With the city moving ahead with a lease for Yukon government land where the new building will go and federal funding now confirmed, he said, the city can begin formalizing its plans for the structure.
It will also free up space in the downtown on the site of the Municipal Services Building for developments more suitable to the neighbourhood, he said.
Egglestone, who’s worked out of the building for more than a decade, described having to “shuffle and juggle” vehicles in and around the garage there as the city’s fleet has grown with the rising population.
“The current building is beyond its useful life,” he said.
A new building that can accommodate the city’s fleet well into the future will mean city’s mechanical staff can be more productive and efficient as they have the space to work on vehicles without have to shuffle them around.
“This is a very exciting announcement,” Egglestone said, noting city staff have been waiting for it for some time.
Bagnell, meanwhile, stressed the federal government’s commitment to improving municipal infrastructure across the country and giving communities the ability to determine how infrastructure funding can be best spent.
“Ultimately, it’s about building stronger communities,” he said.
The federal government will begin a new round of consultations with communities around the country to determine its second phase of federal infrastructure funding.
Over the next month, he said, Ottawa is asking municipalities to tell it what kind of communities they want in 10 years, and what type of new infrastructure projects would help it in working toward becoming that community.
Speaking specifically to the Municipal Services Building, Bagnell noted the structure creates some difficult working conditions for staff.
Its replacement will save operational costs, as it will be a much more energy-efficient structure, he pointed out.
Along with the $15 million the federal government has committed is $5 million the city has outlined for spending on it this year.
Provisional budgets in future years propose spending of $49.7 million in 2017 and a further $1.8 million in 2018.
Comments (17)
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Josey Whales on May 11, 2016 at 3:40 pm
I think these facilities will cost far more than the most recent estimates which city officials have provided. This is not a bad thing it's just too bad that we are not told about the likelihood of under budgeting and cost overruns.
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Josey Wales on May 10, 2016 at 7:05 am
They need this mega center like Burwash needs a mono-rail.
However they will do as "they" see fit, we are mere ties under the tracks holding the mass of political blow-holes up as they ride the rails.
Actually a cross between a gravy and crazy train seems a suited update.
Who will throw a switch and get this going another way?
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Before you use my name on statements that are not mine get it right. on May 9, 2016 at 1:00 pm
Lost in the Yukon I did not make any statement you claim. It is some one else. No more using my name with out knowing who is speaking.
Wilf Carter
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Responsible options not considered............. on May 9, 2016 at 11:47 am
They are squandering our Gas Tax rebate on "Curtis' Castle" instead of using it to fix our roads and improve traffic flow with better signals.
Yes, the old Cassiar building is no longer suitable, however expanding the existing bus garage in Marwell, for a fraction of the cost, would be a much more economically responsible option.
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Max Mack on May 9, 2016 at 9:23 am
So, the estimated cost of this "consolidation" project is now $90 million - and that doesn't include cost-plus, add-ons and other general cost increases that are yet to come.
We are looking at a mammoth legacy project that will probably cost more than $125 million once it is all said and done. Look for all kinds of creative accounting and mammoth tax increases of all kinds to pay for the Mayor's legacy.
This project should be shelved and the City should come up with a plan that safely saves for the future without depleting the capital reserves and resulting in a financial burden for its taxpayers.
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Salar on May 9, 2016 at 7:40 am
To Josey whales on......the Whitehorse of old did allow motorbikes and atvs on trails in the 'green belts'. Not sure when you got here but peace and quiet can be attained in a rectory or old age home if that suits. Lots of work in the south.
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BnR on May 9, 2016 at 6:53 am
Lots of folks complaining about the CoW spending OUR hard earned tax dollars, yet no one seems to mind YG spending the rest of Canada's hard earned tax dollars on projects like the Dawson hospital, Watson Lake hospital, very expensive water treatment plants for outlying communities that were already well served (no pun intended) by water delivery.
I love the hypocrisy of it all.
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I have experience in Lietchenstein on May 8, 2016 at 8:21 pm
Good money after bad. How could cost estimates be so far off? Some heads need to roll. Where is our emergency surplus fund? This planning is as brainy as the visionary ability applied to those useless little traffic circles in already quiet neighborhoods such as Takhini North. This building consolidation is unnecessary and if anyone believes this is going to make the city miraculously efficient then I invite you to follow a City work truck crew around.
Even if the building consolidation was necessary (which it isn't) they couldn't have found a more profoundly stupid place to anchor out of just considering traffic alone. This whole deal is pathetic and embarrassing.
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Josey Whales on May 8, 2016 at 11:34 am
It seems so alarming that costs for major expenditures like these projects is so off.
The city is spending money that is ours. It's giving away our greenspaces to ATV and trail bike operators who do not follow city bylaws for licensing and insurance. Why do greenbelts in this city have to be so noisy in the evenings? The city is creating a new Whitehorse which is out of step with why most people settled here. Please lets us have more input into how the city changes.
It's time to dial down the spending, get bylaw on the trails and make this place as enjoyable as it once was. If Mayor and council will not listen to very simple and pragmatic messages like spending restraint and quiet neighbourhoods and quiet parks it's time for them to start planning for what they will do when they are not reelected in the next election.
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i'm scratching my head on May 8, 2016 at 12:54 am
I'm confused. Isn't the reason why the City sold off most of it's old vehicles + equipment because they wanted to make sure that their O&M went down because most work is done at dealerships? It was only a few years ago that most old equipment was turfed so that warranty + o&m would be done by the retailers.
Also, this should save money because Inland is on the hill as well. City employees aren't qualified to work on the new equipment. If this statement is considered false; then correct me if i'm wrong.
Doesn't Inland/Finning do most of the maintenance of City equipment? That's why they're all running around in new pieces.
The mechanics that have been there for thirty years; have they received recurring training to keep them qualified? I can guarantee they haven't but no one fires anyone because of the union.
It was just in June they added their newest additions.
Please explain which equipment is under warranty and what space they need to do work when
a) non of them are qualified
b) it's all warranty
c) if they touch it they void warranty
Considering I work for them I can tell you- the building isn't being built cause of need
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Smurf on May 7, 2016 at 5:05 pm
... Some staff, Curtis pointed out, have worked in the substandard building for more than 30 years.
“And it was a piece of garbage back then,” he commented...
OK - makes total sense: Wait over 30 years, put no money aside for an overhaul or a new building and now the taxpayer has to come up with the money all at once.
In the meantime our streets are crumbling and full of potholes, affordable housing or building rental apartments (not condos for sale!) is out of the question (people moving up here can't find an affordable place to live), useless departments with more useless positions require even more money, a second bridge to Riverdale is "out of the question" (but would make way more sense) and they can barely keep up with maintaining our existing infrastructure!
Would be interesting how long our Whitehorse residents will keep up with this craziness before they are moving away!
(Because moving away or not even coming here is probably the only thing somebody can do to show the city that they're totally mismanaged and disrespectful to their citizens!)
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You have the City Manager stating that it is going to cost $15 million more just for on May 7, 2016 at 8:57 am
the service building alone. When you read this piece and do the math the City Manager numbers show an actual increase in cost of $18 million.
City Manager can't get the math right by just a little $3 million off of tax payers money.
City Manager trying to down play the Mayor and City Manager's mess up of the project.
Residents of the City of Whitehorse this what you get.
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Now the City project will double in price on May 7, 2016 at 8:45 am
$73 million for new building on the hill and $18 million for the City Hall work for a total of $91 million dollars. That means $3200 per women, man and child in the City of Whitehorse. Up to $60 million in debt financing or payments of $2.9 million per year or $240,000 or month.
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jack on May 7, 2016 at 12:56 am
Nice to see that Larry has taken the bother to wear a neck-tie this time around.
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Lost in the Yukon on May 6, 2016 at 6:08 pm
Dearest "Where are facts" AKA Wilf: exactly what planet do you live on? Is it one where logic and facts are verboten? You either need a holiday or a job; and a hot tip for you - The Pharmacist is not going to hire you
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June Jackson on May 6, 2016 at 4:53 pm
I am of two minds about this project. On the one hand, it's going to create a lot of jobs at a time when Whitehorse is financially suffering. On the other hand, how are so few taxpayers going to pay this bill? I feel I pay exorbitant taxes for very little service in return and things you'd think your taxes might pay for are highly priced extras. Like garbage pick up or water, or anyone heard of snow clearing in the winter? That's free. That is why we don't get it.
IF i thought all the available jobs would go to Yukoner's I might be in favor... but I am afraid the jobs will go to Albertan's and BCers, and Yukoner's will be screwed once again.
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where are facts on May 6, 2016 at 4:29 pm
I have experience project management in Alberta and know that this will create jobs for Yukoners. Where are Liberal and NDP leaders on this issue? Yukon companies need construction work and this will keep our local trades busy unless Yukon party gives work to pal or Clark builders. Yukon party cares for Yukoners!
Thank you