Conservative radio ads target Liberal MPs
Pressure is mounting on Yukon MP Larry Bagnell over an upcoming vote to scrap the long-gun registry,
Pressure is mounting on Yukon MP Larry Bagnell over an upcoming vote to scrap the long-gun registry, and it's coming from both sides of the political fence.
On Monday, federal Opposition Leader Michael Ignatieff told the Canadian Police Association the Liberal Party will oppose a Conservative private member's bill to get rid of the gun registry.
This put eight Liberal MPs, including Bagnell, in a difficult position, as they have twice voted in favour of Manitoba MP Candice Hoeppner's bill to kill the registry.
"I may not have a choice,” Bagnell said of what Ignatieff indicated would be a whipped vote. "I would certainly prefer that it was a free vote.”
Free votes, traditionally called by the governing party and adhered to by opposition parties, particularly for voting on private members bills, release MPs from the bonds of party positions.
But on this particular issue, Ignatieff is whipping his party – demanding Liberal MPs hold the line on the party's support for the registry.
Hoeppner's bill is currently before a legislative committee and is expected to be presented to the House of Commons for a third and final vote at the end of May or early June.
Adding to Bagnell's woes are a slate of Conservative radio ads released this morning targeting the Yukon riding, as well as those of Scott Andrews, Scott Sims, Anthony Rota, Keith Martin, Wayne Easter, Jean-Claude D'Amours and Todd Russell, all Liberal MPs who previously supported Hoeppner's bill.
Mimicking a news story, replete with dramatic intro-music, the "news anchor” exclaims:
"We have breaking news out of Ottawa. Plans to scrap the wasteful long-gun registry are now in doubt. The reason? Local member of Parliament (insert one of the eight MPs here) has been ordered by Liberal boss Michael Ignatieff to vote to keep the registry.”
The ads urge people to contact the MP's constituency office to voice their displeasure; however, according to Bagnell, his Whitehorse headquarters has yet to receive any calls.
While he was not the Yukon's MP when the Liberal government of Jean Chrétien installed a national gun registry, Bagnell has been roundly criticized for abstaining from a March 2003 vote that provided an additional $60 million to the registry.
Bagnell said he abstained because he would have been expelled from the Liberal caucus for voting against the financial top-up. But with the Liberals still enjoying a majority government, it was a whipped vote Bagnell could afford to miss.
Last April, Bagnell was one of a handful of Liberal MPs to oppose a motion to end registration amnesty for long gun owners.
Now faced with the prospect of toeing the party line, Bagnell is touting Liberal-proposed amendments to Hoeppner's bill that would decriminalize a first offence of failing to register a firearm and another that would waive any costs associated with registration.
"These radio ads are misleading,” said Bagnell. "They don't talk about our proposed amendments ... and they don't mention that the Conservative MPs whipped more often than any other party.”
In 2002, Auditor General Sheila Fraser reported the registry's cost had spiralled to 500 times the Liberals' original estimate of $2 million.
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Jordan on Apr 27, 2010 at 8:45 am
Not only does does it cost a fortune and not work, we still don't have all the firearms in the data base. In the 90s there's an estimated 14-20 million firearms made and imported into Canada, to date we've registered 7 million. Does that mean it's going to cost another couple billion to get the rest?
Then to add insult to this, it doesn't work. It was sold to us as a crime fighting & crime prevention tool. It does neither. A list of objects can't prevent crime (just as your registered vehicle doesn't prevent DUIs). And as the gangs use stolen or unregistered firearms, the registry doesn't do much to aid police.
Back in the 90's when the RCMP had to fund the FAC program and what guns were registered back then (they were - in theory) they couldn't be bothered as it wasn't worth their time... yet now that someone else is paying for it, it is worth it?
The ONLY reason to keep a list of every firearm owned by each owner is so that they can be confiscated at some point in time. Don't laugh it happens. Last month owners of two types of guns (one semi auto rifle, and one pump shotgun) received letters in the mail from the RCMP indicating they had 30 days to hand over these firearms or else. One had been in Canada for 18 months, the other 23 years. And yet now they're suddenly dangerous?
Even the creators of the registry have admitted that it was more a social engineering project, than a crime prevention tool.
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Don't know Jack on Apr 27, 2010 at 2:56 am
Joel,
The big deal is that it cost 2 billion, and it doesn't stop gun crime.
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francias pillman on Apr 26, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Hi Joel, I mean, HI LARRY. Please go do some research as you appear to be very uniformed on the subject.
PETITION TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS IN PARLIAMENT ASSEMBLED:
We, the undersigned, residents of Canada, draw the attention of the House of Commons in Parliament assembled to the following:
WHEREAS,
In November 1994, the Department of Justice estimated that the net cost of the new long gun registry would cost Canadian taxpayers $2 million dollars; and
WHEREAS,
By 2004, the cost of the program had risen to over $1 billion dollars, and
WHEREAS,
By 2012, it is estimated that the long gun registry will have cost the taxpayers of Canada almost $2 billion dollars; and
WHEREAS,
In 2002, the Auditor General of Canada condemned the registry for massive Cost overruns; financial inaccuracies; system failures; and delays in implementation; and
WHEREAS,
In 2001, the Government admitted that the aim of focusing on a minority of firearms owners who posed a high risk had been replaced by a system of excessive regulation and enforcement of controls over all firearms owners, that the program had become overly complex, very costly to deliver and difficult for owners to comply, and
WHEREAS,
Many Chiefs of Police, Police Associations and front line officers across Canada have consistently condemned the registry as ineffective; and
WHEREAS,
Every major public opinion poll since 2002 has indicated that a majority of Canadians support the elimination of the long gun registry, and
WHEREAS,
There is no credible evidence that the long gun registry has helped to stop gun crime, solve gun crimes or save lives; and
WHEREAS,
Hunters, farmers, recreational sport shooters and law abiding, licensed firearms owners do not pose a threat to public safety;
THEREFORE,
Your petitioners call upon the House of Commons in Parliament assembled to immediately abolish the long gun registry; and
TO
Re-direct the funds being wasted on this program to more police on the street, increased border security, tracking of prohibited offenders and the creation of crime diversion and social programs.
http://www.scrapthelonggunregistry.com/
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Maynard Starnes on Apr 26, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I thought Larry was his own man and true to the Yukon but i guess not, he thinks more about Ottawa, (which will forget him fast)than he dose the Yukon, oh well no body will TELL my family who to vote for the next time, like they TELL Larry..
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Bodine on Apr 26, 2010 at 9:21 am
Joel:
Registering a firearm is no problem if you are secure in your masculinity.
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Joel on Apr 26, 2010 at 6:02 am
Here is what I don't get, and I am guessing someone will set me straight on this....
I have to license my car, my house, any major work I do in my house, a restaurant, kids get registered at birth, etc, etc. Why is it such a big deal to license a rifle?
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Jordan Rivest on Apr 23, 2010 at 8:15 am
Well, looks like he's selling us out.
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FRANCIAS PILLMAN on Apr 23, 2010 at 7:06 am
I FULLY SUPPORT LARRY BAGNELL. HE IS A TRUE LEADER AND RESPECTING WOODSMAN. HE TOES THE LINE THAT WORKS FOR THE TRUE YUKONERS. PLEASE RE-ELECT MISTER BAGNELLS
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Jordan Rivest on Apr 22, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The "proposed amendments" are A) crap, and B) unconstitutional.
As for not being called, nope I didn't call... but a couple of emails have now gone unanswered (unusual).
Larry does indeed have a choice to make. And whatever choice is made, I can promise you that regardless of what it is, Yukoner's will not forget it. He either stood up and represented us, or he bailed on us, using the "proposed amendments" as a scape goat.
And I agree with Thomas, I don't think abstaining will be enough. That's basically saying he doesn't have the guts to do what we want, and what he's always supported.
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff has suggested that he will create a "non-criminal, ticketable” offence for first time offenders who fail to register their long guns.
"This proposal is flawed for two reasons. First, the long-gun registry was passed under the federal criminal law power. An offence under that legislation must be a criminal offence in order for it to be within the constitutional powers of the federal Parliament. Mr. Ignatieff's proposal is clearly unconstitutional. Second, Ignatieff proposes that an offence be "ticketable.”
Essentially what he is saying to hunters and farmers and other law-abiding citizens is that he is going to make it easier for them to plead guilty to an offence by streamlining the prosecutions process." - Vic Toews, Minister of Public Safety
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Nile on Apr 22, 2010 at 9:54 am
It's easy to eat cake and shake hands Larry. Now its time to do your job and represent the Yukon, not curry favour and try to secure yourself a future appointment to some cushy job. I'm saying this as someone who voted for you!
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Van on Apr 22, 2010 at 8:57 am
You've done a great job riding the fence for years Larry.
Time to grow some stones and do something for the people who sent you to Ottawa.
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Joe Yanisiw on Apr 22, 2010 at 7:57 am
Decision time larry!
Who are you going to represent this time, when it comes to the gun registry vote? The people of the Yukon who elected you or the brain dead Toronto MP's that are going to shun you, because you showed them you are a Yukoner and really do have balls.
Just hold your head high and never forget that you are paid your salary, to representing the desires of your Yukon constituents.
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Thomas Brewer on Apr 21, 2010 at 8:22 am
ah, a quandary Larry!
Tow the party line or do what your constituents desire... I don't think abstaining is going to send a clear enough message.
Do what your voters want.