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Climate Leadership Council’s report lauded

Two cabinet ministers and an NDP MLA have released statements on the Yukon Climate Leadership Council’s report.

By Whitehorse Star on September 29, 2022

Two cabinet ministers and an NDP MLA have released statements on the Yukon Climate Leadership Council’s report.

The council recently submitted a set of recommendations to accelerate climate action to meet the territory’s 45 per cent greenhouse gas reduction target.

The council believes that goal can be achieved by 2030.

“Climate change is the biggest challenge of our generation,” Environment Minister Nils Clarke said Wednesday.

“We released the Our Clean Future strategy in 2020 to provide a blueprint for the territory to address the climate emergency.

“While Our Clean Future is ambitious, new and revised actions are necessary to achieve our greenhouse gas reduction goals.

“We know we cannot address climate change alone,” Clarke added.

“For the past nine months, the Yukon Climate Leadership Council, comprising 11 people representing a diversity of perspectives and expertise in the Yukon, have been working collaboratively to identify solutions to address this complex issue.”

He said the government wants to “express our gratitude to the council members for an ambitious set of recommendations in areas such as education; leadership and capacity building; emissions reductions within our homes, work places and communities; clean and healthy mobility; and clean energy.

“Our government is currently reviewing the recommendations of the council. These recommendations will inform the ongoing implementation of Our Clean Future so that it better reflects the diversity of our territory and enhances the actions being taken across the territory as we continue to strive to meet the terriory’s climate goals.”

The council’s recommendations address such subjects as the encouragement of zero-emission vehicles, low-carbon fuel products, maximum-density housing developments, and pursuing renewable energy sources for new residential accommodation projects.

Energy, Mines and Resources Minister John Streicker said the Yukon “is seeing first-hand significant climate and ecological change.

“There is an urgent need to shift our energy economy and build our resiliency to the climate crisis,” Streicker added.

“The territory’s overall target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 45 per cent is not wishful thinking, it is incredibly ambitious.

“The Yukon’s strategy is as ambitious, if not more, when compared to climate action strategies from other jurisdictions across Canada.”

The council and its recommendations are playing a valuable role in enhancing the territory’s climate action plan, Streicker added.

“These recommendations contribute to our vision of the future and support our broader transition to clean technologies and renewable energy sources.

“While it can be challenging to achieve our 45 per cent emissions reduction target, we continue to take actions to reach this goal because it is crucial that we do so in this climate emergency.

“Thank you to the members of the Yukon Climate Leadership Council for contributing to our collective efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions across the territory.”

Emily Tredger, the MLA for Whitehorse Centre and Yukon NDP critic for environment, had a different take on the state of affairs.

"Our Clean Future, as it is right now, doesn’t even get us to a 30-per-cent reduction, never mind our 45-per-cent target,” she said Wednesday.

“So we knew we needed a real plan, and that's why we negotiated for the Yukon Climate Leadership Council,” Tredger said.

“I’m so proud and grateful for their work. Now it’s time for the government to turn their ideas into reality.”

Comments (29)

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North_of_60 on Oct 5, 2022 at 5:51 pm

George Carlin had good advice that applies to this ClimateCrisis™ debate:
'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

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Kappo on Oct 5, 2022 at 4:42 pm

@John

Hahahah ok big guy. If I'm "not even on your radar", why did you respond to me 3 times now??

This would be a lot less painful for you if you would just admit you are embarrassed by your sources and really have nothing to add on this topic. Face it, your whole "You've been taken. You're in a make believe sandbox" facade is not edgy, it's just sad.

Also, pretty funny how understanding global warming makes someone a "greenie" in your book. I think of greenies as people against economic and population growth.

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John on Oct 3, 2022 at 9:49 pm

@ Kappo

You don't read well sonny. Read - my - note - very - carefully. In case you missed the nuance: go - pound - sand. You are not even on my radar. Best you move on little fellow and go play with the other greenies. I do not want to, nor will I, play in your make believe sandbox.

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The sky is not falling! on Oct 3, 2022 at 7:54 pm

Dear Kappo on Oct 3, 2022 at 4:09 pm:

Interestingly you attack the Fraser Institute as a right wing political
think tank. At least they are thinking. So you assail your presumption of other’s character rather than the evidence? Again, at least they are thinking.

The Fraser Institute informs: “Our research is peer-reviewed and overseen by an Editorial Advisory Board of leading international scholars. The Fraser Institute promotes transparency in research – in other words, our methodology is open and clearly explained, and others can replicate our conclusions. In addition, the source of our data is always provided.

The Fraser Institute has no right or left leaning bias - It uses scientific methodology in its reasoning to come up with what is rather than the magical thinking typically advanced by leftist narratives.

“The Fraser Institute ranks 14th best think tank worldwide out of more than 11,000 organizations, according to the University of Pennsylvania’s annual Global Go To Think Tank Index that was released last week.”

Additionally:

“The Fraser Institute ranks 14th best think tank worldwide out of more than 11,000 organizations, according to the University of Pennsylvania’s annual Global Go To Think Tank Index that was released last week.”

Link:

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/about?__cf_chl_tk=BclmKnpuyn9zDseRGhHTXZHkLO4uY6or1s6Pse0edk0-1664844334-0-gaNycGzNCVE

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/fraser-institute-ranked-14th-best-think-tank-in-the-world-recognized-as-an-international-centre-of-excellence

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My Opinion on Oct 3, 2022 at 4:35 pm

Why is Emily in her PJ's? Working from Home? So hard to even remotely take her seriously. You Go Girl. Hahaha

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Kappo on Oct 3, 2022 at 4:09 pm

@the sky is not falling

I listed arguably the world's top scientific institutions and in response you gave me quotes from the Fraser Institute which is a right-wing political think tank which has nothing to do with science let alone climatology. Oh and some obscure website called "researchgate". So people can judge for themselves who to trust.

@John

Since I've been taken in, can you please give me the REAL truth? Tell me how and why the global scientific community has conspired against the general population. You seem to be very confident so please enlighten the rest of us as to how you came to your conclusion? And please for the love of God, don't say "do Your own research" .

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John on Oct 2, 2022 at 1:29 pm

@ Kappo

My son, I simply do not subscribe to your hysteria or chicken little syndrome. You just sit back and enjoy your sci-fi drama.
Oh, by the way, don't be so bloody condescending.

The real puzzle is why you have allowed yourself to be taken in so easily. Anyway, if it makes you happy you just go for it. Just don't shove your drivel at every passerby expecting them to enroll in your play.

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The Sky Is Not Falling on Oct 2, 2022 at 12:19 pm

At Kappo on Oct 1, 2022 at 3:01 pm:

“The most highly cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position. Of the remaining 34 per cent, 33 per cent supported at least a weak human contribution to global warming. So divide 33 by 34 and you get 97 per cent, but this is unremarkable since the 33 per cent includes many papers that critique key elements of the IPCC position.”

“… This means that if Columbus recorded weather data upon his arrival in America; and, if data were recorded every year thereafter, the percentage of weather data recorded relative to the Earth's history is 0% (rounded to 2 Decimal Places). Predictive statistics is based upon the data set.”

“The greater the data set relative to the total set, the greater the predictive accuracy. Based upon the numbers above, there is 0% predictive accuracy in claims of Climate Change. THE DATA IS INSUFFICIENT. Furthermore, predictive scenarios based on exponential (or other) growth models are also suspect.”

“With the paucity of data noted above, why should anyone believe that the earth will get hotter and hotter? There is NO REASON to suspect that Climate Change is NOT CYCLIC, as our Seasons. This is one alternative theory of Climate. One could postulate that Climate Change is Sinusoidal (Think of how you drew ocean waves in grade school – peaks and troughs.)”

“Sine waves are everywhere around us. Tides, sound waves, electrical current, light waves, heart rate patterns and many, many other phenomena can be considered sine waves. Why not Climate? In the span of the Earth's existence, one could postulate a billion years between a peak and a trough. Thus, Earth could presently be at a Climate Peak, only to plunge into a Cooling Trough for the next billion Years.”

“This would mean that our planet could be COOLING for the next billion years. Based upon the extreme number of natural occurrences that are sinusoidal, I submit that a Sinusoidal Model for Climate would be More True to Reality than an Exponential (or other) Growth Model.”

Sources:

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/putting-the-con-in-consensus-not-only-is-there-no-97-per-cent-consensus-among-climate-scientists-many-misunderstand-core-issues

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362805589_Climate_Change_Hysteria

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Kappo on Oct 1, 2022 at 3:01 pm

@John Your attitude demonstrates perfectly why your humanity might be screwed. You think global warming is some kind of non-real phantom threat? I literally just posted links to the studies done by the world's top scientific organizations. So I guess you think they are all in one some giant global conspiracy since you don't believe them. But even without them, just use your own eyes. Here in Yukon we've just gone through record floods and landslides due to all of the increased precipitation. So what exactly will it take since you don't seem to believe the scientific community or your own eyes?

The few times in pre-historic earth's history when the climate has changed this fast, there were massive super volcanoes erupting or large asteroid strikes, neither of which are present today to account for the rate of change we are seeing. However what we do have, is the industrial revolution and ever increasing emissions to this day. When scientists plug these emissions into their calculations, the puzzle is solved.

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John on Oct 1, 2022 at 12:16 pm

@ kappo

What a illogical analogy. In WWI the enemy was real, not some phantom foe you project.

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Josey Wales on Oct 1, 2022 at 8:02 am

Hey Disaster Politics....number 20 here.
That was a brilliant piece of participation and wish to proclaim that besides a mere up thumb.
Please, carry on.

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Kappo on Sep 30, 2022 at 11:37 pm

@north60 if Yukon's emissions are too small to matter then what do you think about the following.

During WW1 and WW2 some people from Yukon volunteered to fight. Let's say 50 people if that. Do you think it was pointless for them to volunteer since the war was fought between armies numbering in the 10s of millions? Surely they made no difference in the overall outcome of the war, so why bother? This is the same argument you are using regarding global warming.

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I like mine well done on Sep 30, 2022 at 8:44 pm

Well done - North_of_60 on Sep 30, 2022 at 2:14 pm - Well done!

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North_of_60 on Sep 30, 2022 at 2:14 pm

The "Greenhouse gases emissions" guilt trip is pushed on Yukoners so we will accept increasing taxes on fuel which only drive-up prices and inflation.

The only fact that this LIBgov can state with any certainty is that the amount of petroleum products sold in the Yukon has increased significantly since they have been in power. Those Made in Canada petroleum products provide electricity generation, motor vehicle and aircraft fuel, and heat for buildings and homes. The increase in petroleum product sales is directly related to the ever-increasing Yukon population. That population increase is almost entirely caused by the LIBgov substantially growing it's burgeoning bureaucracy with more and more employees doing little but shuffling documents among themselves.

They could have invested in developing the Yukon's vast untapped hydroelectric resources, which would provide renewable energy for half a century or more. Instead they've frittered away hundreds of millions of tax dollars on greenwashed boondoggles including Made in Asia solar panels, wind turbines, storage batteries, and electric vehicles. Based on current lifespan data for Asian products, at best these will be useful for maybe a dozen years before they become toxic waste filling up our dumps with all the other short-lived Asian products they encourage us to buy. It's nothing but short-term, expensive, virtue-signaling to buy votes from the gullible and naive. Instead of investing in our long-term energy future with the generous gifts the Government of Canada gives us, the Yukon LIBgov has spent it buying more votes to stay in power.

The incredible irony of all this wasted tax money in pursuit of greenwashed ideologies, is that about half of the Green-House-Gas Emissions the LIBgov appears to be concerned about comes from factories in Asia which also spew toxic pollution into the air and water making all the other disposable stuff we buy. Meanwhile all of Canada including the entire petroleum industry is responsible for less than 2% of Global GHGs, and the Yukon's contribution is so small that it's lost in the errors estimating Asia's total GHG emissions.

The myopic hypocrisy and waste of tax dollars by this LIBgov is unprecedented in Yukon's history.

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Groucho d'North on Sep 30, 2022 at 1:34 pm

@Kappo
Its called Global Warming yet local policies are put into place to try and deal with the bigger concern. Are you aware that Canada still exports between 40 and 60 million tonnes of coal to China each year? If the decision makers in government were sincere about dealing with GLOBAL warming, this would have been adressed long ago, But instead we get punitive taxes to limit our consumption of fossil fuels in vehicles and home heating.
It's similar to the fisheries pillaging by the commercial fleets that take fish by the tonnes and expect fish stocks to rebound by limiting sport anglers to just two fish per day. The math does not support the desired outcome.
Our governments attempts to reduce carbon emissions is misguided as an objective- it should be to reduce Global Warming, but that might limit the use of jets, freighter ships that burn bunker fuel, and all the other large emitters. It's so much easier to place the burdon on those who do not consume on the same scale as the big users..and don't write cheques to political campaigns either.

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Karl on Sep 30, 2022 at 12:57 pm

Meanwhile, instead of efficiently converting oil directly into thermal energy in home heating furnaces, the oil is being converted in YEC's fleet of diesel generators into thermal energy, then to electrical energy. transmitted with an efficiency loss to your house and then turned back into thermal energy.

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Wilf Carter on Sep 30, 2022 at 11:19 am

Will Liberals and NDP show Yukoners a chart of where and how they are going to reduce carbon by 45% by 2030? In looking at present growth patterns we will increase carbon output by 30% at least by 2030. It's great to put a number out there that is based on process to reduce carbon in Yukon unless you stop tourism and have electric trucks or trans to bring in food.

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Josey Wales on Sep 30, 2022 at 8:27 am

Ahhh the eco lemmings are nesting, on wads of money.
These claims are beyond fantasies, they must be fuelled by crack.
There was less propaganda that came outta Germany in the 1930’s than these “wizards” spew on the regular.
Fed but the media industrial complex, used by the communists to achieve their divide of people.
Off the charts fed up with these idiots, their sycophants and the variety of political blowholes that espouse this chicken lil routine.
Your sky, or facades may be falling...not mine.
Political blowholes in PJ’s lecture us, love it.
Nope...our biggest challenge is not the climate, it is the power lust blowholes feed from...and clearly well.
Anyone know a struggling politician?
...a political administrator in a food bank, stressing of heat or food this winter?
Naaaaaah, thought not.

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Disaster Politics on Sep 30, 2022 at 8:00 am

ET go home!

ET regales the m’asses with the Lefty refrain: “… we continue to take actions to reach this goal because it is crucial that we do so in this climate emergency.”

This so-called emergency action on climate change however has contributed to the consolidation of wealth and power in the hands of despotic regimes such as Russia, China, and Trudeauland.

Thanks ET for supporting, “World Disorder: Who could ever have imagined that the West’s attempts to phase out fossil fuels would leave two dictators in control of both global energy security and the supply of manufactured goods?”

“In recent years, childishness has been the dominant fashion in Canada. We obsess about marginal issues that make us feel good, while nasty regimes around the world laugh at our moral pretentiousness and undermine the institutions we have so painstakingly created.”

“Children, as child psychologist Mary O’Kane reminds us, have an innate tendency to engage in magical thinking. They often believe that if they wish hard enough for something to happen, it will. They find it difficult to tell the difference between fantasy and reality and will accept totally improbable explanations for events.”

It is the exercise of Chicken Little politics like this that answers the ‘why’ question:

“Why then have we continued to put forth one THEORY of Climate as if it were the only one available? The lack of long-term data allows for many interpretations of Climate. We can be stewards of the planet AND enjoy its richness without shouting that the sky is falling. Please, please stop the Climate Change hysteria. We can (and should) be custodians of our planet without being idiotic.”

But it’s hard not to be an idiot when you live in the Idiocracy. When in Rome…

Ignorance kills:

“Almost everywhere, however, cold quietly kills many more people than heat does. In the U.S., about 20,000 people die from heat every year, but 170,000 die from cold — something we rarely focus on. Moreover, cold deaths are rising in the U.S. and our incessant focus on climate change is exacerbating this trend because politicians have introduced green laws that make energy more expensive, meaning fewer people can afford to keep warm.”

ET - This is absolute lunacy! You are perverting our children while destroying their future. Stop it! How do you live with yourselves? How dare you!

These climate change policies that you are advocating for and supporting with your L-NDP alliance are not just childishly petulant but they are human-kind killers… The L-NDP alliance is an alliance of psychos-pathology.

The climate change hoopla is nothing more than a screech narrative of social control dressed up in statistical phantasm:

“The greater the data set relative to the total set, the greater the predictive accuracy. Based upon the numbers above, there is 0% predictive accuracy in claims of Climate Change. THE DATA IS INSUFFICIENT.”

So, thank the L-NDP coalition for this campaign of political ________m! Perhaps you might turn the volume up on Canada’s Post National Anthem:

“I'm easy come, easy go, Little high, little low, Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to Me, to me…”



Resources:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/gwyn-morgan-net-zero-has-been-a-boon-to-dictators

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/RrRozak/publication/362805589_Climate_Change_Hysteria/links/62ffd315eb7b135a0e4830fd/Climate-Change-Hysteria.pdf?origin=publication_detail

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/putting-the-con-in-consensus-not-only-is-there-no-97-per-cent-consensus-among-climate-scientists-many-misunderstand-core-issues

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Kappo on Sep 29, 2022 at 11:37 pm

@Groucho

I agree about Al Gore and Greta. They are just figureheads who try to bring attention to the issue.

For the real data and information people should go to the world's top scientific institutions like NASA, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Cambridge, Oxford, Stanford, Princeton and the University of Tokyo. They all agree that what's happening is deadly serious and is caused by the actions of humans.

https://climate.nasa.gov/
https://www.climate.ox.ac.uk
https://earth.stanford.edu/climate-change-ed#gs.ceexys
https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/climateendgame
https://climate.mit.edu/
https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/topic/policy-and-politics/
https://climatechange.environment.harvard.edu/

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Jim on Sep 29, 2022 at 8:58 pm

And there you have it folks. This is why the Liberals will never try and reduce the cost of fuel to heat your home. Anything but. They try to make themselves out the poster child for energy efficiency with their EVs, solar and extra insulated buildings. No matter what the cost. It doesn’t matter because they are using your money to shame you into doing the same. Much like the city when they demand all their structures are 30% above required energy efficiency. Again, it’s not their money, it’s yours. One has to wonder what qualification these 11 individuals have to bring these solutions forward. You would think Canada would have their brightest minds working on the solution as this is the number one problem facing the globe. But no, we have our own group of 11 brightest minds that we will listen to (sarcasm). We are being led by idiots, I’m afraid.

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bonanzajoe on Sep 29, 2022 at 8:55 pm

Yukon has one of the highest levels of Radon gas in the world. So therefore, it has to be one of the worst emission problems in the world. What is this left wing marxist coalition government doing about it? Nothing! Just fretting over gas emissions. Let's get a council together and do something about the Radon gas problem - something that everybody agrees on. Did it ever occur to any of these leftys that Radon gas may be the worst polluter that is affecting the health of people?

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bonanzajoe on Sep 29, 2022 at 8:42 pm

How about balancing out the Council with people who don't believe in climate change. It's not fair to spend tax money on a biased and partisan council. Come on Currie Dixon of the Yukon Party, we want representation from both sides. It's your job to see to it. If it's going to be one sided then let the Liberals and NDP coalition pay for it out of their party coffers.

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Dallas on Sep 29, 2022 at 7:51 pm

Two Liberal cabinet ministers and a NDP MLA lol, like they are truly informed and have a clue about what’s really going on, three of the dumbest I would say.

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Please don’t (further) reduce me on Sep 29, 2022 at 5:18 pm

I’m made out of carbon. Also small amounts of iron and other trace minerals. My nitrogen has been cut back, but I notice I don’t fart as much. Thanks Justin. If you were in town, I would buy you a drink with a paper straw in it.

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Groucho d'North on Sep 29, 2022 at 4:03 pm

I know I harp on about this but there is a big difference between real data verses forecasted/anticipated data.
Most of the climate data used for the Yukon is based on how many litres of various fossil fuels are sold here. This in and of itself is problematic in that not all fuels are burned at maximum efficiency causing additional carbon and other materials to be emitted. Engines out of tune, contaminated fuel and similar influences will degrade the efficient engine operation. So some engines pollute more while others are less polluting - that’s a variable that does not get measured in any way. How many out of tune vehicles do you see on our roads?
The volume of fuel sold gets entered into a computer someplace and based on somebody’s formulae, calculations on emissions are created, but there is never a +/- X% variable included. These numbers are taken as gospel when they are really calculated guesses at best.
I submit that there should be real data gathered to measure the real - not estimated - quality of our air. How much carbon does the Boreal forest consume? I doubt it is even measured.
The NWT recently equipped their communities with real time air monitoring apparatus so that a true measure of the air quality can be used to guide their policy decisions. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/n-w-t-free-air-quality-sensors-1.6586182
There is plenty of hyperbole on climate change on what’s real and what is promotional scare tactics to justify governments’ plans and programs. Remember Al Gore predicting the Arctic would be ice free by 2013 and polar bears would be drowning in numbers? Obviously he was inflating his position to frighten people to limit their fossil fuel use. Does anybody think that doesn't happen anymore? Greta and all the other climate doom cultists focus on the worst case scenarios without any data to back up theiir claims.
Going forward, I hope as these advisory groups adopt a science-based protocol so that the real information is made public and all the fear tactics are seen for what they really are.

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Juniper Jackson on Sep 29, 2022 at 3:01 pm

*sigh* The BS is just never ending. I almost prefer covid BS.

The only people making any difference to our planet's ecology, biology and climate are the every day family that is reusing, recycling, planting their gardens, using nonplastic where they can. Using water bottles, and recycling. All the crap people are spouting is just that. Someone talk to China.. Canada is already ok.. 0 emission cars? This "council". What are their credentials? As for 'big business' emissions. Trudeau introduced an out for them..a loophole so they can keep throwing garbage into the atmosphere..its called "Carbon Offsets". Throw all the carbon dioxide you want, but you have to pay for it. So, companies just pay for it. How is that contributing to anything? other than the stock holders?

I speak only for myself, as always, i think we can not control/limit climate change. Our world has changed 5 times, at least, in the past, and will change again. It is a HUGE money maker though..little ol' Greta is worth over a million dollars now. But, I also believe we should have a clean planet. We can stop throwing garbage overboard, keep our homes, yards, cars, and planet.. clean. One family, one person, at a time.

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Matthew on Sep 29, 2022 at 2:00 pm

“For the past nine months, the Yukon Climate Leadership Council, comprising 11 people representing a diversity of perspectives and expertise in the Yukon, have been working collaboratively to identify solutions to address this complex issue.” Not much of a Council if everyone thinks the same way is it.. shame I didn't get on the board (I tried). I own, bought and sold businesses in Yukon, plus, Carbon is what gives us life and not take it away is paramount to any decision being made.. they change the narrative every few years, use keywords, instead of Carbon it's now Green House Gasses. Instead of Global Warming or Global cooling, its now called Climate Change. Rise and repeate every 10 years..

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Wilf Carter on Sep 29, 2022 at 1:39 pm

Why doesn't Liberals and NDP put out the real facts on climate change in the Yukon. Carbon is not problem in Yukon it does not affect our climate at all. A million trees in the Yukon to create 79% nitrogen and 20% oxygen in our atmosphere. most of the carbon created is from trucking and tourism. Heating is 11%. None of this make any sense in science right John??? With increase in cost of goods and housing Yukon young people are leaving and professionals especially. All this is a political talk to get votes.

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