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ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER SLIDE – Tuesday’s avalanche of mud and trees measured about 40 metres by 100 metres, the Yukon Geological Survey has calculated. Photo courtesy YUKON GEOLOGICAL SURVEY
Photo by Photo Submitted
ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER SLIDE – Tuesday’s avalanche of mud and trees measured about 40 metres by 100 metres, the Yukon Geological Survey has calculated. Photo courtesy YUKON GEOLOGICAL SURVEY
A fourth landslide has hit Whitehorse.
A fourth landslide has hit Whitehorse.
On Tuesday, another large slide struck not far from the avalanche that closed Robert Service Way on Apr. 30.
Jeff Bond of the Yukon Geological Survey was at the scene just after the slide occurred.
He told the Star this morning he had been contacted by workers at the site who noticed more movement on the clay cliffs.
“They said a tension crack was opening up slowly.”
Bond was planning on installing a sensor in the location after the call. He and a colleague were working their way up the cliffs Tuesday when a section gave way.
“We missed it by five minutes,” he said.
The slide is in close proximity to a large slough that occurred last year, Bond said. It’s about the same size as last weekend’s two events (see p. 3), which were somewhat larger than the Robert Service collapse.
“It’s about 40 metres by 100 metres,” Bond said.
The latest slide is about 200 metres to the south of the slide that closed the road, Bond said. Like the one that occurred last year just slightly further to the south, this one didn’t threaten to come over the road.
Bond explained it’s in a section a little further away from the road, and not as dangerous.
As he did on Monday, Bond said the cause of the problems is an overabundance of ground water, likely from the high snowpacks over the last two winters.
Tuesday’s slide, though, didn’t contain nearly as much water as the others.
It’s in a heavily-wooded area, which would help absorb the groundwater. Some of the trees that were knocked down in the landslide are quite large, Bond added.
He doesn’t expect the escarpment to dry out until later this month – if the current dry weather holds.
Bond said he doesn’t think the current slide will affect the clean-up efforts, although that’s more a question for City of Whitehorse officials.
The slides, he said, are unusual in recent history, but are definitely not unusual in a bigger-picture historical context.
There’s ample evidence this happened before over the centuries, Bond said.
“The use of LIDAR technology, for one, shows us many past slides.”
The city has set up a network of sensors all over the escarpment, and is trying to get a sense of the daily movement, Bond said.
“There’s a team of people working on it.”
Mayor Laura Cabott told the Star late this morning the slide had been expected for weeks.
People monitoring the escarpment had been keeping an eye on a tension crack for some time, she said. It had reached four metres wide Tuesday morning before giving way.
This avalanche will not affect nor impede the work going on to try to reopen Robert Service Way in the next week or two, she added.
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Roy on Jun 3, 2022 at 7:32 pm
@bonazojoe
Hey BJ - I support tax dollars going to studying the cliffs and also to finding the gravesites of residential school victims. Some of us (not you apparently) have enough grey matter to understand it’s not one or the other.
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Mitch Holder on Jun 3, 2022 at 4:41 pm
@ Werner - If you are a dumb plumber sir, I would hate to hire the wrong one. Shit doesn't run downhill with this government, it pools up in their studies and woke PR.
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Werner Rhein on Jun 3, 2022 at 2:21 pm
Could it be that the real cause of these slides lays above the other side of the AKHWY.
Where does all the drainage from up there go now? Were there not several little creekbeds buried when the airport was built?
All the surface and possible groundwater flows have to go somewhere.
As we can see the start of the slides is way down, where we can see the water seeping out.
More ground broke loose above that during the slides.
Where did all that water go, when the 6" water main broke and filled the basement of the now Transportation Museum, in the late 1980's.
Where is the runoff water from the airport runways directed to?
It can't be rocket science, when a dumb plumber, who just knows that shit has to run downhill, can ask these difficult questions.
Werner Rhein
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@Roy on Jun 3, 2022 at 12:46 pm
@Roy
You absolutely nailed the entitled attitude and hypocrisy of so many posting about this issue. Thank you.
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bonanzajoe on Jun 2, 2022 at 4:48 pm
Roy. So instead of wasting money on clay cliff studies, maybe we should just spend tax money on things like looking for bodies in old cemeteries. Would you support that?
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bonanzajoe on Jun 2, 2022 at 4:43 pm
Bandit on Jun 1: There are different kinds of clay. Wilf has some very good questions. Maybe they have already been answered already by the geologists.
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Mitch Holder on Jun 2, 2022 at 2:10 pm
@ Common Sense - you lack common sense, those slopes are fully forested and not going anywhere.
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Dave on Jun 2, 2022 at 12:27 pm
Hilarious - people are staying away, and then experts almost get piled up.
Oxymorons
How would we get daily updates if we lost our treasured experts?
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comen sense on Jun 2, 2022 at 10:46 am
When there is one slide after another you would think they would have the sidewalk/trail when you drive down two-mile hill roped off under that section of the bluff.
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Sheepchaser on Jun 2, 2022 at 10:39 am
Wonder if anyone is looking at this with a longer view. Erosion is the unstoppable force, downtown Whitehorse is the immovable object. The really interesting question is about a large slide occurring downriver of the city and blocking the flow of water. What might the consequences of that be?
Building in a flood plain below an aging damn surrounded by erosion. Those million-dollar home valuations are an illusion.
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Derp on Jun 2, 2022 at 10:22 am
Mathew
You need thicker tin foil for that hat. The conspiracy theories are leaking in.
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Roy on Jun 2, 2022 at 10:11 am
Sounds like the kind of problem some good ole sourdough with a front end loader and a history of working at a mine could fix and get the road open am I right?
According to star scientists we don’t need to study it. No need for experts from outside - lord knows we must have everybody we need for everything already inside the territory at all times.
Let’s complain about government waste but also simultaneously believe we should have on hand experts in every field just sitting around so once a decade they can study a problem and we won’t have to fly in an outsider.
If this post triggers you maybe go back and read your comments on here from when the first slide happened. Yep - a lot of you said “clean up the dirt and move on - what’s the big deal?!”
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Bahahaha on Jun 1, 2022 at 10:47 pm
Obviously the climbers triggered the slide. (Sarcasm)
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Bandit on Jun 1, 2022 at 10:22 pm
Holy Fack Wilf,?
Questions what kind of soil is in the clay cliffs? Wilf, It's Clay that's why they are called Clay Cliffs. I used to go gather it up for Art class with my Art teacher Ted Harrison when I was in F.H. Collins in the 70's.
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bonanzajoe on Jun 1, 2022 at 9:07 pm
I know this may anger some people, but the Robert Service Way has to stay closed until this danger is over. I went to see the damage on Jeckell and saw how close it came to the childrens playground. I don't want to hear of anybody getting hurt or buried in a landslide. And it takes me an extra 10 - 15 minutes to get to town every morning, increasing my gas costs. But, its worth the time and cost. Let's just be patient.
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Charlie's Aunt on Jun 1, 2022 at 6:15 pm
@ Wilf, 'what next?' With tongue in cheek again, I'm thinking that in a few decades the runway will be down in the river valley and that will solve problem of relocating airport.
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North_of_60 on Jun 1, 2022 at 5:40 pm
Yes, the vibration from driving the sheet-pile barrier may cause some areas to slide sooner than later. This is all a useful experiment with data collected by Yukon Geological Survey to improve their ability to predict where and when slides will occur in the future.
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Nathan Living on Jun 1, 2022 at 5:29 pm
A dry slide and all that material on a steep slope along Robert Service Way closer to town.
No school buses loaded with children on RSW until this material is deemed to be safe please.
An abundance of caution please!
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Matthew on Jun 1, 2022 at 4:53 pm
So all these new slides, have NOTHING to do with pile driving (extreme vibration) sheet metal into the ground!? LOL
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Wilf Carter on Jun 1, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Looking at this situation from hydrology perspective the clay cliffs were a ticking time bomb. Now our 4th slide - what next? Questions what kind of soil is in the clay cliffs? What is the density of the clay cliffs? Why are they now holding water and letting go? Does building on clay cliffs create hydraulic action to occur making the weight to push down on clay cliffs? There is more area than we know and have asked for a copy of findings from the City but they will not release the info so science people can review it.