City’s wash bay forces Trans North to leave
Trans North Helicopters has to move from Range Road because of the new city development next door – and the company is not happy about it, says
its general manager.
By Chuck Tobin on July 24, 2019
Trans North Helicopters has to move from Range Road because of the new city development next door – and the company is not happy about it, says
its general manager.
James Rose said Tuesday Trans North will be approaching city council in the next three months or so to ask the city to pay for its moving expenses,
which he estimates will be $100,000, or more.
Since he only took over as general manager a year ago, Rose told the Star, he wasn’t around when the city conducted consultations on its new $52-
million operations building off Range Road.
But he’s been assured by those who were that the addition of a new two-storey wash bay to the south of the main building was not part of the original
discussion.
Rather, it was an add-on by the city, with no consultation, at least not with Trans North next door.
Rose said he’s spoken with councillors Dan Boyd and Laura Cabott. Both are of the understanding the wash bay was not included in the original project proposal nor the consultation regarding the project.
It’s the wash bay, not the main building, that has been red-flagged by Transport Canada as a concern, he said.
Rose said the new ring road around the new Toyota dealership the city is planning on to provide a second access to the operations building was also
presenting a challenge, though they felt they could work around it with flight management.
Just as you can’t fly over buildings unless you’re at 1,000 feet above, you can’t fly over vehicles unless you’re 1,000 feet above, he explained.
He said they still don’t have the road design from the city setting out lamp post locations and such, despite requesting it.
But by managing flight departures and such to wait until there was no traffic, they felt Transport Canada would accept they could continue to operate
from the location, he said.
During discussions with Transport Canada about the road, which included a map of the buildings around the general location, Rose said, the federal
regulator noted its concern about the wash bay building, confirming Trans North’s concern.
The wash bay, he said, has reduced the take-off and landing options to the point where their location is no longer viable as a heliport.
Rose said the operations building also presented challenges, but it left a large enough window for helicopters to operate in during different prevailing
wind directions.
The wash bay has made the window just too small, he said.
“We are going to have to sell and move everything,” Rose said. “We can’t fly out of here anymore.”
He said Trans North is hoping to continue using the location for hangar space until next spring.
Their smaller helicopters, when fully empty with just a pilot onboard, have the ability to climb straight up and come straight down, thereby increasing the take-off and landing options, but only when they’re empty, he explained.
Rose said Trans North has secured a hangar next to the airport tarmac.
It’s a fraction the size of theirs, though, and will not even come close to fitting five helicopters inside like they can now, he said.
It will be a stretch, the general manager suggested, to even get all the tool boxes inside, but it’s the only location available to keep Trans North in a
competitive space.
Moving too far from the airport means losing a competitive edge, he said, noting the company is planning to begin flying out of its new location
sometime around October.
Rose said staff will have to move fuel tanks, which will require an environmental assessment. They’ll also have to move an electric hoist that requires a specialized team, along with other equipment and the office.
It’s not going to take long to tally up moving expenses, he said.
Their current location off Range Road, where they’ve been for the past 20 years, is the best location in town, Rose said, but now they’re having to
move into a space that is much less than ideal for their needs.
Boyd asked administration Monday night if the city had received an update from Transport Canada regarding Trans North’s ability to continue flying
from its Range Road headquarters. He was told there was no update.
In a brief administrative report to council on Monday titled Impacts of Operations Building Construction, council was informed:
“In response to a query from a council member, administration advised that no response has been received from either Transport Canada or Nav
Canada on whether or not Trans North will be able to continue to operate from their existing site.
“The city acknowledges that building construction does result in a number of irritations and inconveniences for adjacent properties, but there is little that can be done to mitigate these issues during the construction process.”
Comments (26)
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Wes on Jul 29, 2019 at 7:34 am
I’m really curious about what’s going on here.
Is it a proposed “road” that’s causing the Transport Canada issues? It’s not a public road, it’s on the City property, so if it’s causing the issue, what about the vehicle access on the adjacent Toyota dealership and NWTEL properties?
Is it the wash bay? If so, what about the new Toyota dealership building?
Before any public money gets used to pay for TNs relocation, I'd like to know what exactly the issue is and why the other properties adjacent are not issues.
One final thought; if a private individual or company was doing the work on the property of concern, would we be hearing the same level of concern?
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John Newman on Jul 26, 2019 at 4:32 pm
Dan COW - You believe your own blunder, don't you? When the City is so incredible considerate, why was the entire building not placed where the Toyota dealership is, with direct access to the highway? Oops I forgot, that property would have cost money.
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Groucho d'North on Jul 26, 2019 at 9:29 am
For all the money that gets spent on studies, planning and consultants for this and that related to project planning and design for new construction like the MSB building, it appears that tax payers are not getting value for all the work they pay for. The wash bay should have been something that was foremost in the building's design, and with it the related regulatory glitches that are only coming to light now. Supposed professionals are the ones stick-handling these projects, I suggest they should be up for a performance review based on recent history. Because we all know who pays the tab for all the legal BS to follow.
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Wes on Jul 26, 2019 at 7:38 am
Had a quick look on some different current satellite images, and the Trans North base isn't any closer to the City's wash bay than it is to the Toyota dealerships 2 story building, if anything the dealership is closer to, and between Trans North and the airport.
Which begs the question why the City's buildings are the issue and not the other buildings?
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yukoner on Jul 26, 2019 at 6:51 am
I always thought having the TNTA base located right under the final North approach was a bad idea. Wonder how Tranpost Canada rationalized that?
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Dan COW on Jul 25, 2019 at 2:50 pm
Our staff and council strongly support the Yukon airline industry which is centred in Whitehorse.
Council looks at all files and issues closely to seek compromises that benefit Whitehorse residents and support the Official Community Plan which provides a framework which guides council.
We often make difficult decisions and there is always thoughtful consideration for all parties involved.
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Bandit on Jul 25, 2019 at 12:34 pm
My question would be, who owns the land Trans North is on? Is it a Lease or does Trans North own it? If it is owned by Trans North and the CoW would have been the one issuing the building permits, then Trans North Operations should have been taken into account before the wash bay was designed and approved.
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David Griffiths on Jul 25, 2019 at 10:52 am
Why doesn't Transport Canada tell the city to build their wash bay elsewhere? Trans North has been a fixture in our city and territory for decades, paying their taxes like everyone else and do not deserve to be treated so flippantly.
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Yukoner on Jul 25, 2019 at 9:24 am
This article epitomizes the attitude of City, staff and administration, and the arrogance of this organization. I hope Trans North takes legal action against these bozos. I would say it's time for the City to clean house, but I already know that staff have been steadily leaving their jobs because of the work environment and culture. So who's left? The bozos. Slow clap.
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YT on Jul 25, 2019 at 8:23 am
Judging by the comments, I’m guessing most of you folks would be against operating Air B&Bs as well, because it affects business.
Don’t tell me what I can do on my own land.
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BnR on Jul 25, 2019 at 8:14 am
So, what the commenters below are saying is that the legal owner of a property can’t do what they want on their land, assuming what they want to do is allowed under the zoning. Sounds like a bunch of communists wanting to control everyone.
This is a Transport Canada regulation, not a CofW zoning or area development regulation. Property owners aren’t governed by TC regs.
Trans North would have been aware of the vacant land north of its base and should have anticipated that development may occur there that could impact its operations.
If anyone is to blame, it should be Transport Canada’s inflexibility. A variance or exception could have been granted. But it’s fashionable with a certain segment to bash the CofW on any and everything, so there you go.
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Mr M on Jul 25, 2019 at 7:31 am
Bullies, bullies, bullies. They don't care about the private sector or public input at all. It is just lip service. They like to think they care but really they don't.
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Snowman on Jul 24, 2019 at 10:32 pm
@Al Oh yes, those darn Liberals like Samson Hartland, Jan Stick and Steve Roddick lol. You obviously have no idea of the political situation in this city.
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Guncache on Jul 24, 2019 at 9:41 pm
A business that has operated from the same location for 20 years and the mayor and some councilors force them out. No doubt the wash bay was always on the back burner, just kept as a secret. Shameful
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Calvin on Jul 24, 2019 at 9:36 pm
Everyone who is working in the building is gonna hate it right near the end of a runway, like that is just dumb. There is thousands of acres of land to develop on yet they're cramming it all on a couple hundred acres ???
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North_of_60 on Jul 24, 2019 at 8:36 pm
The CoW administration is either incompetent, and didn't consider the impact on nearby businesses...OR duplicitous; knowing fully well that the business would have to relocate and simply ignored the issue to avoid more public exposure of their ongoing mistakes.
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The other side on Jul 24, 2019 at 7:44 pm
While it does sound like this sucks and that the Trans North had a sweet setup, sounds like they were going to have an issue anyway, there was going to be a road there, they were just banking on the fact it wouldn't get used much.
They are also only going after them because it's the city, if some other private business was moving in I'm sure they wouldn't be trying to go after them like this.
Realistically that's prime land that would have gotten developed eventually and I'm sure once the road is in you will see more people moving in up there, it only makes sense.
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Woodcutter on Jul 24, 2019 at 7:14 pm
City builds a wash bay with unforeseen consequences and Al blames the party that governs the Yukon. I would think the architecture firm would be more culpable then Larry's political preference, but then I am educated more then most.
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Clare staffen on Jul 24, 2019 at 6:43 pm
It’s seem like COW and the present council doesn’t appreciate the amount of business the aviation industry brings to both the Yukon and Whitehorse.
They insist one business scrap their investment on Shawatka lake for no good reason other than they were innovative and now basically ham stringing TNTA and limiting their ability to continue service the exploration/mining industry.
Someone in the COW and council should be taking care of the tax payer.
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Miles Emerson on Jul 24, 2019 at 6:20 pm
I let my guard down and forgot the city comes first. Trans North should have a protest in front of city hall; I will be there to support them if they do.
Seems like the city comes first, then well healed businesses which get tax breaks, then the KSA with their trail monopoly, then ATV users.
The CITY should redesign their building to allow Trans North to stay.
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Dave on Jul 24, 2019 at 4:45 pm
Wouldn’t this be valid grounds for a lawsuit against the city, not just moving expenses?
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Al on Jul 24, 2019 at 3:55 pm
Ah - your city at work for you. I guess that is what happens when you have Liberals in council and as mayor. They are learning well from those idiots in Ottawa.
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Wilf Carter on Jul 24, 2019 at 3:54 pm
Folks the mayor manages everything.
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CJ on Jul 24, 2019 at 3:44 pm
Like when they couldn't accommodate the CBC tower for Whistlebend, so a huge percentage of the population, including the communities, lost the radio signal. City planners like to operate like they have a blank slate, a luxury they wouldn't have anywhere else. "There is little that can be done". Great to see that problem-solving attitude in action.
It looks like they can keep saying Department of Transport hasn't written back till we all forget about it.
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Just going to file this one away on Jul 24, 2019 at 3:33 pm
“The city acknowledges that building construction does result in a number of irritations and inconveniences for adjacent properties, but there is little that can be done to mitigate these issues during the construction process.”
That's exactly what I'm going to say when I build outside the scope of an original project.
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Politico on Jul 24, 2019 at 2:38 pm
Just bloody brilliant.