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KEEN INTEREST EVIDENT – Onlookers watch members of city council debate the request for a higher height limit for part of a proposed waterfront hotel development on Monday evening. Council eventually approved the request.

Chief ‘extremely upset’ by councillors’ remarks

Kwanlin Dün First Nation Chief Doris Bill says she’s “extremely relieved” that zoning has been approved to raise the height limit for a proposed hotel on the waterfront.

By Stephanie Waddell on September 25, 2018

Kwanlin Dün First Nation Chief Doris Bill says she’s “extremely relieved” that zoning has been approved to raise the height limit for a proposed hotel on the waterfront.

However, she’s also “extremely upset” by the remarks of two councillors during discussion before the vote on the zoning Monday evening.

Bill spoke to reporters following the 3-2 vote for the zoning change on a proposed development that would see a hotel constructed on Front Street.

It will allow the structure to now be built to a maximum of 20 metres in the hotel portion of the project. The height limit on other sections closer to the river will be lower.

The development for 1181 and 1191 Front St. is being proposed by the River’s Edge Partnership. That’s an effort of the Kwanlin Dün First Nation’s Chu Níikwän Corp. and the Vuntut Gwitchin First Nation’s Vuntut Gwitchin Limited Partnership.

The hotel would feature 100 rooms along with a restaurant and underground parking.

Officials with River’s Edge have said they plan work on due diligence in the coming months and will determine whether they will pursue the plans further.

Structures would be built perpendicular to the Yukon River to ensure there’s little impact to the trail, which residents could continue to access.

There are also plans to incorporate a strong Indigenous design and to integrate the development with the trail along the waterfront.

Councillors Samson Hartland and Betty Irwin voted against the final two readings of the zoning change.

Mayor Dan Curtis and Councillors Roslyn Woodcock and Dan Boyd voted in favour.

Coun. Jocelyn Curteanu declared a conflict on the issue, as she has done previously, and was not on hand for the vote nor any of the discussion. Coun. Rob Fendrick was absent from last night’s meeting.

Irwin argued that developers should be required to build within the height restrictions that were already in place. The city could be seen as ignoring the protests of many citizens and encouraging privatization of the waterfront, she added.

In making her arguments, Irwin also referenced “well-heeled” developers.

Bill took issue with the comment. She highlighted the history of First Nations being pushed out of the waterfront for many years, arguing that to “call us well-heeled” is very upsetting and not accurate.

The chief also took issue with Hartland’s stance on the proposal, pointing out he was the lone council member to vote against first reading last month.

Council typically passes first reading of most zoning changes to get it to the public hearing phase before second and third readings.

To turn it down so early, Bill said, is a slap in the face.

“He didn’t even reach out to us to find out what the project was about,” the chief added.

In his comments last night, Hartland said he supports the project in principle for the tourism and economic benefits it could bring.

However, he also supports documents like the city’s Official Community Plan (OCP) and the Downtown Plan, which stress lower height limits for the waterfront, Hartland added.

He noted the city will be reviewing the OCP next year and that would be a more appropriate time to review the issue.

Hartland said he was “extremely conflicted” about the zoning change, but just not able to fully support it now.

Bill pointed out there are already a number of buildings in the downtown area and on the waterfront that have had their zoning changed to raise the height limit, including the nearby Kwanlin Dün Cultural Centre.

Other council members, meanwhile, voiced their support for the zoning change, with Curtis commenting: “This is one of the easiest decisions I’ve ever had to make.”

During the public hearing, he pointed out, the city received nine submissions supporting the proposal and seven against. Many of the nine in favour though, came from local organizations representing large parts of the community.

“This is not a sleek business model,” Curtis said, arguing self-governing First Nations are bringing the project forward – one he said will benefit the entire community.

He also pointed out that the concerns that came up during the public hearing have been addressed through amendments to the zoning.

Under those changes on the properties:

• any buildings that are taller than 12.5 metres must be set back at least 7.6 m from the property line next to the Yukon River reserve; and

• any buildings greater than 15 m high to have at least half the gross floor space as part of the hotel.

Additionally, while buildings on 1181 Front St. would have the 20 m maximum height limit, a 15 m height limit would be in place for 1191 Front St.

The mayor highlighted the public space along the waterfront, including the trail that runs along the waters edge, the three park spaces on the route and so on.

“This is not a difficult decision for me,” he said.

Similarly, Woodcock said: “For me, it’s not even a question.”

She also took issue with the idea that the city would not trust First Nations to build something that would benefit the community on the waterfront, highlighting their history in the area.

Finally, Boyd voiced his support for the proposed zoning change, noting that it’s within council’s mandate to change zoning from time to time, depending on the situation.

“We do want development on the waterfront,” he said, adding the city is also in need of more hotel space.

“Tourism is growing,” he said.

In this situation, it’s not unreasonable for the zoning to change, and the request is not proposing that the building be higher than what some other structures are in the area.

“It’s not a huge change,” Boyd said, pointing as well to the restrictions on the heights.

The approval for the zoning change was greeted with applause by many who were seated inside council chambers last night.

Outside council chambers following the vote, while Bill said that while she was upset by Irwin’s and Hartland’s comments, she expressed her thanks to Curtis for recognizing what the waterfront means to the First Nations.

Asked about the next step in the project, Bill said with a smile, “We build a hotel” as she and others left city hall.

Comments (41)

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Al on Oct 1, 2018 at 10:32 am

Darrell:

"Curtis's rant tells me that he's already looking to get Bagnell's job when it comes available."
Well that is one way of getting rid of him. He ran federally he'd lose and it would be good riddance...

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My Opinion on Sep 30, 2018 at 1:17 pm

The First Nations are all chronically offended 24/7 anyway. I guess racism is OK when you see yourself as a victim all the time. Good Lord get over yourselves.

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Darrell Drugstore's smartest neighbour on Sep 29, 2018 at 2:09 pm

Curtis's rant tells me that he's already looking to get Bagnell's job when it comes available.

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Wilf Carter on Sep 29, 2018 at 1:21 pm

Martin why don't you put your full name out there.
Are Murray Martin by any chance Rick Karp's campaign person?
You are very disrespectful to FN.
We are all of the same blood but different backgrounds.

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Martin on Sep 29, 2018 at 10:47 am

The term "Colonialists " is thrown out there very lightly.
I always wonder if the FN don't like the "Colonialism"... Why on earth do they all have a English last name, cowboy hats and like country or rap music? I think they all should change their last name to a Athabascan, Tlingit or Tutchone real names.

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Kirn Dhillon on Sep 28, 2018 at 6:17 pm

@ woodcutter
My "people" are Canadian. However, if you are referring to my ancestors then yes they were at one time colonized by the British Crown. I believe now they have nuclear weapons, the fourth largest economy, and the third largest military in the world. They hardly speak of the wrongs of the past and they have moved on in the hopes of creating a better country. The country is barely 60 years old...to put that in perspective the United States had just finished a bloody Civil War at a similar age in its nationhood. History lessons aside - blaming every misfortune on race is no way for people to achieve progress. It minimizes incidents of legitimate racism.

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woodcutter on Sep 28, 2018 at 9:53 am

@ Kim
Your people at one time were colonized as well, perhaps you're too young to recall. However, the memory of the FN folks having their homes bulldozed, forcibly relocated and systemic ghettoized by the colonial powers at the time. Now we have a city councilor, one has a negative history, from the first time he was elected as a teenager politician to city council, of riding a populous wave of conservatism and all the connotations implied of being controlled by the YP puppet masters, and one that has been in the scene so long, that she feels secure in her position of being an COW icon and does no wrong.

Perhaps, it's not a race card, issue, perhaps its a desire to reclaim their control of what was once their home,

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Lynx on Sep 27, 2018 at 10:20 pm

@PSG Yeah that's what all the NIMBYs say. They never actually say they are against development but they oppose infill, want to restrict building heights, oppose developing neighborhoods in new areas etc. By all means if you can demonstrate that a development is stupid and greedy, present your evidence!

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Kirn Dhillon on Sep 27, 2018 at 4:55 pm

@ Studebaker Dunlop

LOL! Thanks buddy. Not this time though. But I do plan to vote for candidates that are focused on listening to people and actually DOING SOMETHING for our City. Last year the City had cash over $63 million. Part of the reason for these improved finances is that property tax revenues for the past four years increased about 5% each year. How much better are your services today compared to four years ago?

Something needs to change.

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Studebaker Dunlop on Sep 27, 2018 at 1:13 pm

Kirn Dhillon for City Council

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Kirn Dhillon on Sep 27, 2018 at 12:38 pm

I find Dan Curtis's lecturing and emotionally-charged indignation to be unbecoming of a Mayor. I think the Mayor should be respectful of all views and should not use opportunities like this to jump on his soap box at the expense of throwing his councilors under the bus.

I personally went through a lot of headaches and resistance when it came to building heights and rezoning. In my case, I wasn't even trying to change the building height. I simply wanted to build to the height that was already on the books. However, I did not get the same treatment that this rezoning is getting. I had to fight an expensive three-year uphill battle with the City and residents.

I am a visible minority. Not once did it occur to me to blame the difficulties of my rezoning and the attitudes of certain city councilors on my race. In the end, I listened, argued my project on its merits, and had to compromise. It does seem that the ease of rezoning approvals is different depending on who brings the rezoning application forward, and that is unfortunate.

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ProScience Greenie on Sep 27, 2018 at 12:35 pm

Smart development is awesome Lynx, we need more of it. Stupid, greedy, corporate welfare dependent development is not good and we need less of it and demanding that is not being Nimby.

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Lynx on Sep 27, 2018 at 12:38 am

Hey Henry, Hartland just lost my vote and Curtis just gained it. I support development, not the NIMBYs.

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Josey Wales on Sep 26, 2018 at 8:01 pm

Yes of course she is upset, the poor darling must get over herself.
Precisely thee issue with identity politics, those at the top of the power?
Many just as Bill get gobsmacked upon processing the thought that others don’t hold the same racial and cultural supremacy values as “they”.
I for one clearly am sick of the whole engineered social mess and will call out all cultural and racial supremacists when the opportunity arises.

In this PC Crusaders utopia, that opportunity pops up more often than prairie dogs in heat.
...yes very sick of it all.
Says this alleged European Invader.

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Ilove Parks on Sep 26, 2018 at 6:34 pm

I think Chief Doris Bill was overly sensitive with the councillors comments.
Hartland was right on and represented taxpayers who have expressed concerns, Irwin was perhaps a little insensitive but her comment was for the most part tolerable.

Any time council puts a trail through an Environmentally Sensitive Area or gives up something which is different than what is outlined in the COP there has to be a public rationalization from each councillor; Why? For accountability.

The KDFN has been very generous in going through process when undertaking development.
Mayor Curtis is biggest offender in this case; he should really think before he speaks.

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Hugh Mungus on Sep 26, 2018 at 5:51 pm

Bill’s faux outrage over everything is getting a little old.

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Henry Wensleydale on Sep 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm

Hartland just got my vote on October 28

Curtis just lost it

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Yukon Watchdog on Sep 26, 2018 at 3:55 pm

@ Michael Dev Corps are separate legal entities from the FN government. They can sue and be sued. No action lies against their FN gov.
@ BnR I'm pretty sure Tippy Mah had a height restriction lifted also to allow for that top floor. As I recall, that was the beginning of the slippery slope of disregarding the OCP in favour of a squeaky wheel. Yes, money talks. Ooops, I mean, yes, Tippy got what he wanted, too: a height variance. He also applied for a height variation on his second proposed condo building before abandoning that project. No sympathy here for Tippy, sorry!

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David Allen on Sep 26, 2018 at 3:38 pm

Remember on October 18, you only have to vote for up to 6 Council candidates. If you only like a two, then only choose two because everyone's vote is counted. Select who will represent all of Whitehorse's needs, not just those in special interest groups.

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BnR on Sep 26, 2018 at 12:34 pm

How come Tippy Man never got all the special treatment for his proposed Mahs Point II development????
Alberta Vision, er, I mean Northern Vision got the big tax break, this one gets the height restriction waived, Tippy? Not so much.
Guess there are different rules for some folks...

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Michael on Sep 26, 2018 at 12:10 pm

FN Development Corporations are run by FN so can FN not be on the hook??

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Dean LaRue on Sep 26, 2018 at 10:09 am

MEH - is Doris Bill ever NOT upset about something ?

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Racism at its Best on Sep 26, 2018 at 8:37 am

"He didn't even reach out to us to find out what the project was about." Your documents should have spelled out what the project was about.

Why is there a different standard because it's a FN project? Let's just make that racism line a little clearer here because that's what Chief Bill seems to be relying on to complain that a counselor didn't reach out to them. I don't know of any non-FN project where the counselors are expected to reach out to the proponents. This FN has lots of money to hire professional, competent business plan writers, project managers, etc. It's those professionals, imo, that were called well-heeled. And yes, as Max Mack said, it is not the FN bringing the project forward. It is their Development Corp bringing it forward which is all about business development. If you don't already have some well-heeled business people in that Dev Corp, maybe that right there is the problem.

Kudos to Hartland for staying true to HIS mandate as a city counselor, to make sure things align with the OCP and not to be swayed because of preferential treatment to one business developer versus another based on race or anything else. I'm voting for you in the next election exactly because of your actions in this issue.

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Lost In the Yukon on Sep 26, 2018 at 7:10 am

Oh please, don't play the victim and race card and play on "white man's guilt" when this is about making money. The Whitehorse City Council that represents ALL of the citizens of Whitehorse has the obligation to ask the questions ... my question is why have an OCP when it obviously means nothing because every special interest group can get a variance.

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Andrea on Sep 25, 2018 at 11:31 pm

Congratulations. Colonialists have had their way changing the beautiful natural landscape into a town 100 yrs ago and then profited greatly developing it into a city and capital.
Considering First Nations were deprived human rights until 1950 something, I am really proud that Indigenous peoples in your territory who have occupied the land for thousands of years now have the right to be leaders in shaping the city you created. Equitable access.

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Capitan on Sep 25, 2018 at 9:36 pm

It was a little amusing to hear Chief Bill try to pull defeat from the jaws of victory, but Dan Curtis' tirade was disgraceful.

From what I heard on the CBC (and it went on and on, ministerial statements are less verbose) he was virtually accusing the two councillors and the "seven people" who opposed it of being racist. You expect to hear a mayor uphold people's right to respond to the application, not attempt to eviscerate those who didn't jump on board. Not to mention his scoffing at the significance of the OCP.

It's not the first time, it's not even the second time I've heard him claim that people who dare oppose something that he wants are "posturing".

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Moose on Sep 25, 2018 at 7:53 pm

Happy that the Mayor and most of the councillors made the right decision. There is a shortage of hotel rooms in this city so any development is good. As for height restrictions and sight lines, cry me a river. We either build up or we build out. How much anyone wanna bet that the same people crying about the height would scream even louder if this project instead required new woodland to be cleared? I'm sure there would immediately be a "friends of ______" group spring up.

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Doug Ryder on Sep 25, 2018 at 7:41 pm

The expression well heeled is a metaphor. It can mean many things. The saying is thought to have been originally used to refer to the sharp spurs worn by roosters during coq fights. The expression later referred to gun fighters of the Wild West and their guns. While the saying well heeled may have a modern day association with money that is not what it literally means.

It refers to the concept of “power”. This is something that Doris Bill should be familiar with and should at the same time be ashamed of using in this regard.

The political power of any person should not be used to isolate and attack a person this way. It is cowardly and it is disgusting behaviour. It happens too often in Yukon politics and elsewhere.

Neither counselor was being racist, derogatory or otherwise ill meaning. To advance the idea that either were, is again, cowardly. It would be unfortunate for Indigenous governments to continue down this path.

This is not the journey you were elected for.

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Martin on Sep 25, 2018 at 5:54 pm

While I support developments and would allow for lifting restrictions, I resent Ms Bill tactics of confrontation. Enough of FN charging against the rest of the people. As Mario Cuomo said "She was never that great, anyways".

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Studebaker Dunlop on Sep 25, 2018 at 5:53 pm

Max Mark for City Council !

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Ilove Parks on Sep 25, 2018 at 5:01 pm

Same same.

A business wanted to have concessions from council to maximize profit and there was lip service about codes and the COP and the developers got their taller building.

Time for a change. What happens now when developers dream up a gambling casino, it will make lots of money and create a few jobs so it has to be good for the city.

Again, time for a change.

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Max Mack on Sep 25, 2018 at 4:26 pm

Words cannot express how profoundly disappointed I am with Curtis and the other councillors who voted for this.

As for Curtis' comments, it is beyond ridiculous to claim this is "not a sleek business model." Funny how no other business stepped up to build this multi-million dollar hotel complex while also seeking a relaxing of height rules.

Curtis is also wrong that it is "self-governing First Nations" bringing this proposal forward. The project is a joint venture of two development corporations; hence, businesses that seek to optimize profit. It is the development corporations that are on the hook if the project fails - not the First Nations.

Is Curtis saying that we should bend the rules anytime a "first nations" interest is in play?

As for Woodcock, since when do we trust a business, ANY business, to do what is right for the community? Does she think first nations businesses have some special claim to ethics or morality or beneficent leanings?

I expect a lot of back-room wheeling and dealing went on here. This betrayal of the community sickens me.

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north_of_60 on Sep 25, 2018 at 4:17 pm

Well of course the "Chief ‘extremely upset’ by councillors’ remarks".
How dare those colonialists try to impose any restrictions on what her people choose to do with their land. Mayor and Council are only there to rubber stamp what she wants to do.

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G Adamson on Sep 25, 2018 at 4:05 pm

If this wasn’t a First Nations group coming forward this would have been considered differently. I find it unbecoming of Chief Bill to personally attack two Councillors when it is the City’s job to look at things objectively and the OCP is to be their guiding document.

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Mel Johnson on Sep 25, 2018 at 3:37 pm

It's great to see these changes approved to support this project. The development will be very good for Whitehorse and the waterfront overall. Hats off to Chief Bill and the developers for moving ahead!!

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joe and Jane on Sep 25, 2018 at 3:32 pm

It's horrible that indigenous influence favoured this project. And how will this benefit the entire community exactly?

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Wilf Carter on Sep 25, 2018 at 3:28 pm

Wow, what can any one say. Development will be of great interest in the future in downtown Whitehorse.

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Patti Eyre on Sep 25, 2018 at 3:25 pm

Thank goodness the forces of good have prevailed, the bible teaches us to forgive and not covet and that only the penitent shall pass

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Yukoner on Sep 25, 2018 at 3:12 pm

Extremely upset by being called well heeled? Really? Do you know what the term means? SMFH.

Maybe this hotel will be a good thing. When the Shipyards zombies invade the hotel and grounds, what will you do? Take people in, or turn them away? Show us what's more important, your money or your people. I think we already know the answer.

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ProScience Greenie on Sep 25, 2018 at 3:12 pm

Most opposed are against tall buildings destroying the view of scenic mountains and northern lights and couldn't care a bit about whether the developers are well heeled or anything else about them. Anyways, as usual, it's all about the money and little else in the so called wilderness city.

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Thomas Brewer on Sep 25, 2018 at 2:57 pm

With $27 million in 2017 revenues and a surplus of $61 million on their financial statements for KDFN alone, one could call that organisation 'well heeled' and not be wrong. Ms. Bill's dismay is a diversionary tactic.

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