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Elaine Taylor, minister responsible for the Women's Directorate, discusses the planned housing project during this morning's news conference.

Building planned for single moms, children

The Yukon government has promised a new 30-unit apartment complex to meet the needs of single women and their children who need affordable housing.

By Chuck Tobin on February 5, 2008

The Yukon government has promised a new 30-unit apartment complex to meet the needs of single women and their children who need affordable housing.

Elaine Taylor, minister responsible for the Women's Directorate, announced the commitment at a press conference this morning, after two months' research into the segment of society most in need of social housing.

It's estimated the cost will run between $9 million and $11 million.

The dwelling could include services like a central daycare and a full-time administrator to provide support and advice for residents, the minister indicated.

"The access to affordable housing helps to reduce the incidence of violence in the community, and that is certainly a priority for me."

Taylor would like to see the complex open in two to 2 1/2 years, and expects to have initial financing in this spring's budget to begin the process of planning and so forth.

The funding will flow from the Northern Housing Trust Fund, which was provided to the territory through a federal contribution in 2006.

Of the 65 family units on the Yukon Housing Corp. waiting list for affordable housing, approximately 25 fall within the target population of single women with children.

Taylor said it's too early to suggest what the design might look like, or whether the complex will involve the modular-style construction of the athletes' village built for the 2007 Canada Winter Games.

The final design, she said, will involve some further consultation but expects the units will be a minimum of two bedrooms to a maximum of four.

Whatever the final design, it is certain to include state-of-the-art technology to maximize energy efficiency, the minister said.

Yukon Housing will be managing the project.

Taylor announced the initiative back in early November to specifically research and address the needs of single women with children in need of housing.

"From the research and through consultations, single women with children and women who have experienced violence were considered to be in significant need and that a housing complex should be developed to best suit their needs."

Spokeswomen for the Yukon Status of Women's Council and Kaushee's Place transition home applauded today's announcement as a good first step to meet the varied and extensive social housing needs in the territory.

"I am very happy they are doing this," Charlotte Hrenchuk, of the women's council, said in an interview following Taylor's press conference. "And I am happy at the speed at which it is going.

"The consultation period was short and to the point, and action has been taken," she said. She noted the abundance of research and information already exists regarding social housing needs in the territory.

Hrenchuk said she hopes to see the same emphasis on the construction phase that was placed on the brief consultation period.

She emphasized there remains a greater need for more social housing in general.

"Many people have dropped off the list for social housing who do not bother to apply because they know the waiting list is too long,"

Hrenchuk said there is a need to provide for the single women and men who work two and three jobs but are part of the working poor who can't afford decent housing.

There is a need to support independent housing units for those who require assistance to pay bills and such, but are able to live on their own, she said.

"But I think this is a good first step in solving many problems that we have here in the Yukon."

Barbara Powick, executive director of Kaushee's Place, said the 30-unit complex will definitely relieve stress in today's tight housing market for women who can't otherwise find accommodations for themselves and their families.

In today's market, Powick said, landlords have the luxury of asking for credit checks, rental histories and criminal record checks.

"Many women can't meet that criteria, so social housing is an important part of helping people get back on their feet, to help raise their kids, to help get back into school and perhaps back into the workforce."

Powick pointed out the five apartments at Kaushee's are meant to provide second-stage housing for up to six months for women and their families, though extensions are routinely granted.

The apartments, which are in addition to the rooms for emergency shelter, are always full, she said.

Powick said there is a need for more secure, second-stage housing for women and their children in transition from the initial 30-day emergency shelter Kaushee's provides.

Whether those needs could be addressed in the new 30-unit complex announced by Taylor, she is not sure, but this will at least raise the possibility for discussion.

Taylor said her Yukon Party government is the first territorial government to address social housing needs in a very long time. There is the new six-unit senior's complex in Haines Junction, for instance, and the 48 units for seniors in Whitehorse which initially served as the athletes' village, she pointed out.

Don Routledge, director of corporate relations for Yukon Housing, said staff have some conceptual ideas they'll be presenting to the corporation's board of directors next week.

Once the board provides direction regarding the type of housing complex it prefers, staff will have a better idea of the type of property they'll need, he said.

Routledge said Yukon Housing has looked at numerous sites on land owned by the government and privately.

"We have a number of concepts in terms of the type of building, and based on the final concept, we will decide the type of land we need in terms of the footprint for the property."

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99% unbias single mother on Mar 12, 2008 at 7:55 am

I am a single mother and have/am on SA, I also work full time and collect on average $50/ month for my electric bill every month. Although it was not like that before. I would rely solely on Social Assistance (which i did not abuse)I believe in the situation put infront of me that I did what I had to do to get by with my newborn son. His father did not pay child support for he was off doing drugs with no legal income. I AM A HELL OF A GOOD MOM WITH NO EMBARRASMENT for asking for help to provide for my son. I would like to get back on topic with the single mothers complex. I think that the intensions were right when planning this building. Bottom line is that Whitehorse NEEDS more affordable housing. I agree with this. I don't agree with the label being put on it. I feel as though that sexism has been put aside for the other discrimination to shine through. For arguments sake, what if we were to say men and woman, BUT THEY HAD TO BE WHITE. or better yet WHITE MEN ONLY. i think that overlooking the sexism being brought out here is as rediculous as "White men only" sounds, I as well know single fathers out there and I admire them, amagine the hurdles just like this one that they have to encounter where it's all about the woman and children. I do agree with the general thought but why does it have to discriminate. We need housing..... EVERYBODY.

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Dawn Kisoun on Mar 12, 2008 at 2:57 am

Well said Trina

And when you are putting your comment on this site why cant you use your full names like it says on the comment file

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ml on Mar 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm

i know lots of singel mother and father out there that need the help also look at some of those that are able to work that are using the system out there i know so many people that are able to work but choses to sit on s.a because they dont want to and they wine and complain that they cant aford to live and stuff well instead of sitting on your backside complaining that you cant aford aford a place to live go and work make a living i think that yes there should be a place built for low income family but are they going to keep it that way or are they going to let any one in there that cant afor it trust me i live in low income housing and it is not safe for me and my daughter there always partys and fights and so on going on here i get told that is what happens when you are in lowincome housing me and my daughter are moving because we do not feel safe some random guy walk into my house for no reason i should not have to lock my door 24 7 because i do not feel safe there should be some thing saying that should say who can come and go and i mean after so many complaint with certin people where i live time to go but because they cant aford it they can stay well if they can aford boozes and what not then they can aford a place to live that is what i have to say i mean if you cant work and you have a doctors note stating that you cant not work ya you should be able to live in low income family or if you are raising 2 kids and working a full time job and still cant aford it then i think it is time landlords look at reality and lower rentel rates

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trina Lowe on Mar 10, 2008 at 11:25 am

Mr Taxpayer95

Im a single mother of three kids, my deadbeat ex left us so i had to make ends meet. I Use to be on social assistance and Do still collect child tax. How dare you assume all SA clients pawn off our kids to daycare so we can hit up the local liquor store or go back home and sit around.

I for one, as well as many friends i have cannot jugle 4 kids, plus hold down two jobs so i can put a roof over my kids head. Sometimes they need the support. Your arrogance in this matter shows you dont know much about the system, yes SA does try to get each and every client back into working. as for the child tax, it is used to buy clothing for our kids, extra money put into the daycare system because here in the yukon the rates are outrageous and we have to dig deep to pay that extra 2-300 dollars.

Give your head a shake and think before you speak, Not all single parents dwelve off the system.

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LH on Mar 10, 2008 at 11:15 am

We all know at least one person who abuses or has abused 'the system' in some form or another. Does it really make sense that these individuals become the poster children for larger groups in our society that really need help?

It's true that there are more single dads these days; kudos to them for taking on the responsibilities that women have borne for many years. It's also true however that women are still many times more likely to be the primary caregiver for children and are also more likely to be paid less than men and to be poor. These are facts.

Children that grow up poor, where their parent(s) are worried about such fundamental issues as a place to live are going to be disadvantaged. Period. They will be less likely to become educated, and will be less likely to be productive members of society.

Does it really matter how much the government spends to house people who need it? The private sector can't afford to build affordable housing. It's very short sighted of us as a society to scowl at the price of affordable housing without recognizing the price we will pay later.

We need young people to be able to fill the gaps we leave when we retire or become disabled. Should we really be punishing them for their parents choices?

PS - you can't raise a child on $300 per month.

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AJ on Mar 10, 2008 at 10:16 am

i agree with rebecca on this one. i dont want my tax dollars being spent on a project such as this. i agree that there should be affordable housing for single parents, INCLUDING SINGLE FATHERS! If theres a daycare center in this so called affordable housing unit, they (mothers & fathers) can find jobs to help pay for rent, daycare, etc.

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Taxpayer 95% on Mar 6, 2008 at 9:01 am

When I hear something about single moms, I think of child tax payments, and possibly child support. Back in the 80s it used to be 33 dollars a month, now its something like 300 dollars a month. Have 2 kids, thats 600 dollars a month as so forth. Why work? better to live off of welfare and child tax payments. You think welfare is gonna kick a single mom of welfare, nope, bad PR. Affordable housing, gimme a break, half of copper ridge and most of the development in town is all yukon housing with fixed rates on how much you make, but you cant go that route if your income is over two grand a month and have no job. But its kinda a nice to see your "single parents" take thier kids to day homes, while the parents go back home to sit around, maybe drop by the local liqour store or the neighborhood dope dealer, but its all good times in the yukon for the 95z, i mean population.

On yukon time, all the time

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mike gustus on Mar 4, 2008 at 4:08 am

I am in agree with those who believe it should not just be for single mothers but for single parents.

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sandra on Mar 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm

The bottom line is, the yukon party has blew it with the single fathers sector in this territory. They make all these huge promises such as rates increasing on assistance cheques and so on, but client cheques have not budged since that new proposal came down approx 6 months ago. and judi, what women groups do you now, backed and lobbied this apartment for single women only. As jefferey related, there are more and more women that are losing there custody to the fathers and we should praise the dads for steppin up and taking an active role in this society. The fact is, i for one will not be voting yukon party next election due to the fact in there eyes, women are the stronger parent, and in my eye thats BS. way to go dads, help is coming

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Anthony on Feb 28, 2008 at 3:18 pm

It is illegal for a government to publicly fund any project that discriminates based on gender. Same goes for race, sexual orientation etc.

Remember how Justice got burned this summer after the case where a francophone could receive the same level of service as as an anglophone would? That turn out to be rather embarrassing and expensive for the government.

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JB on Feb 28, 2008 at 5:50 am

I agree that both sexes of single parents need help, but what happens when they get in a relationship. Do they have to move? There aren't that many places in Whitehorse that want small children.

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Judi Johnny on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:48 am

I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THESE UNITS AVAILABLE FOR SINGLE WOMEN SHOULD SINGLE MEN WANT THE SAME THING THEY SHOULD LOBBY THE GOVERNMENT THATS WHAT THE WOMEN'S GROUPS DID

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LP on Feb 15, 2008 at 10:50 am

This is a comment to Neil. If the liberal Party was in the House and using my money as a tax payer, the way the current Yukon Party is using it, I would think the same. A bandaide to cover a larger wound, does nothing. Give me a break. Do you know single fathers, single mothers or have a parent or person(s) in Seniors' Housing? I do... and trust me, this government is not being realistic, or honest. And if you want a truer picture of the homeless, be out there looking about 3 in the morning. It will shock you. We have a huge housing crisis in this TERRITORY.

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Patty O'Brien on Feb 11, 2008 at 5:40 am

Well said Rebecca!

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Rebecca on Feb 10, 2008 at 8:05 am

HUH?

Assume that '9 to 11 million' turns into 12 million for a round number. In reality we all know it will cost much more. Each 'single mom' apartment will cost $400,000! No doubt the place will about as attractive as a bomb shelter by the time the government gets through its 'design charette' despite the cash being dropped.

There will no doubt be a YTG staff of 5 for administration costing $50,000 p.p/ year including benefits. Read $8,000 per year per apt.

We are looking at $2,400 per month per unit in financial carrying costs or opportunity cost on the money if it is paid for in cash. (Mortgage at 5.5% interest or loss of investment income on 12 mil. Add the $750 per month in admin, plus $100 in utilities and you have a carrying cost of $3,250 PER MONTH per apt! Not including water, sewer, damage, taxes, incidentals, and depreciation.

The justification for this project is that the private sector will not provide decent 'afforadable housing'. Yet Social Assistance expects the private sector to provide the same services for $650 per month to house a single person. That is a fact.

SA will kick in another $100 or so for utilities, but prefers that utilities be included for the $650.

SA provides a maximum combined oil and damage deposit of $390. This is a joke and comes nowhere near filling an empty tank let alone doing repairs or paying for carrying costs if the SA renter leaves without giving proper notice - which is common.

A 'single mother' with a child or two probably gets about $1000. I don't know about single fathers since they seem to be in a different category.

How does the government justify allocating itself over triple the amount that they expect the private sector to work for? Then consider the danger of this Project turning into a segregated slum as is the case with so many other 'social housing' endeavours that isolate groups in need.

My suggestion: Increase assistance cheques to some reasonable level and let people (men included!) rent themselves comfortable living spaces in a respectable, integrated, normal neighbourhood rather than paying over triple to create The Projects - a building that will no doubt stigmitize the kids and women who live there.

And what is with the 'mothers only' rule anyway? (No fathers allowed: Fathers BAAD! Mothers GOOD!)

I object to this project. It is not thought out, this is the first I have heard of it ie, there has been no public consultation.

Congratulations to the 'advocacy group' that pushed this through behind the public's back with no debate.

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Susan on Feb 10, 2008 at 5:15 am

The emphasis on isolating women with kids from men is ridiculous and insulting to the males in our community. Who are these 'advocates' who speak only for women? I wonder what they have against men that they would not advocate for single dads as their needs are just as important. This does not sit right with me and I do not want my tax money going to a sexist institution.

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Nile on Feb 9, 2008 at 7:02 am

These comments just prove that peoples political bias blind them from everything. No matter what the Yukon Party does some people will never be satisfied. The Yukon Party has turned the Yukon into a place where students can return and make good money, and not just by getting some lazy government job.

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Shannon Optley on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:37 am

This government doesnt know what its doing. Cant there be a single father/mother apartment complex in this town instead of a women only, or what about a men only complex. It works both ways

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LP on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:36 am

It is good to see that they are acting on the need for affordable housing for single mothers with children. As noted in previous comments, there are other groups in need as well. I can see there would be a smaller group of single dads in need, and the homeless are another small group.

Larger then that, is the growing group of seniors in this territory. Yes, they have opened units in the atheletes village for seniors (best have a car though and be very self sufficiant).It can also be noted by the general public, "they have 2 other apartment building in the town as well". Its not what it all appears. Open your eyes, and ask around. Are our Seniors being provided for... really?

If there are 65 appliciants on the waiting list at Yukon Housing, how many appliciants are there elsewhere? I felt it unrealistic to use only one set of numbers as an example.

I again say, I am glad to see there will be some housing coming. 30 units is far to small, especially if it is 2 years down the road. Lets get real here.

This is only yet another small bandaide by the Yukon Party, to cover a much bigger wound.

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LW on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:14 am

In response to Jen. Oh you mean the same goverment that squanders $40 million and has no apologys to Yukon tax payers? The same goverment that turns the Yukon into one big open pit mine? Oh right that one *rolls eyes*. According to that study 38% are single mothers, wow, I'm not very good at math but who makes up the other 62%. This goverment has already proved they can't be trusted so why do you side with them? I know of a few mothers who have kids who feel its more important to get high and drunk then take care of their kids. I have reported numorous people to social services regarding abuse, mentally, physically, and drug wise. What has been done? ZERO. Even with photographic proof. Funny thing that everyone I reported was a SINGLE MOM. Frankly this lack of accountibilty scares me. When I have seen with my own eyes that social services shows no regard for a childs well being. In my opinion you can throw these so-called studys out the window, because they don't even come close to reality.

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Jen on Feb 8, 2008 at 6:37 am

The government is responding to a recognized and DOCUMENTED need for housing for single mothers. Why this news has to be spat on by the "whattabout me's" of the world is beyond me, and likely beyond those people now looking forward to having a suitable and affordable home environment. If you see a need, advocate that need, don't detract from government and advocacy group's successes.

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Murray Lundberg on Feb 7, 2008 at 11:51 pm

In a jurisdiction where one race gets preferential treatment in hiring for a large percentage of jobs posted, it should be no surprise that one sex now gets preferential treatment in finding affordable housing.

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LW on Feb 7, 2008 at 12:01 pm

I agree. This is a border line Human right violation. It tells the community that women are the only ones who need housing. Why can't these buildings be both for woman and men. I know lots of single fathers raising kids, wheres their rights? This is just another stab at wrecking the family unit even more. We are all human beings, its not about gender.

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Krista Funk on Feb 6, 2008 at 10:52 am

Finding affordable housing is an issue for many people from all walks of life, not just single mothers.

I agree with Jefferey that we don't seem to hear much about what is being done for single fathers, and to take care of their needs and rights.

Also, what of the single child free folks? How about the ones with their maximum allowance of pets-per-household? Or the ones who just can't seem to find a job that pays well enough even to rent a run-down shack somewhere?

Housing is something we all need as human beings. Finding affordable housing is a challege, and I fully support efforts geared toward easing the process. Perhaps it would be easier on all parties involved if we took segregation out of the equation.

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Jefferey reid on Feb 5, 2008 at 10:38 am

What about a shelter for the men... more and more women are losing out on full custody of there children... I think there are enough programs and buildings for the women... lets get to new times and help these fantastic single fathers out

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