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Health and Social Services Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee

Bilingual clinic could open next month

The Yukon government is planning on opening a publicly funded bilingual clinic in Whitehorse next month, Health and Social Services Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee reiterated Wednesday.

By Morris Prokop on October 13, 2022

The Yukon government is planning on opening a publicly funded bilingual clinic in Whitehorse next month, Health and Social Services Minister Tracy-Anne McPhee reiterated Wednesday.

November’s temporary location for the Constellation health centre has to be determined, however.

McPhee met with the media following Tuesday’s question period in the legislature. She addressed the walk-in clinic that was supposed to have been up and running by the past spring.

“In the spring, Yukon Government had supported a sort of a unique setup, to help with some setup costs and some administration costs for a walk-in clinic that would have been staffed by local physicians,” she said.

“Those doctors ultimately chose not to pursue that business model. So we were back at the drawing board.

“But I just want to be clear that the walk-in clinic or that kind of service will only provide walk-in type care for patients that might otherwise go to the hospital. It’s not really primary care; it won’t provide long-term care for individuals to be connected to a private doctor or to a family doctor.”

McPhee referred to “long-term planning going forward. And it is a very important long-term plan because it does envision polyclinics.”

Those facilities offer wrap-around services provided by social workers, nurse practitioners and physicians.

“It has been successful in other places with a larger population than this,” the minister said.

McPhee also mentioned the government’s new three-year services agreement with the Yukon Medical Association (YMA).

“That includes incentives for physicians to increase their patient load,” she said. “And the YMA president has described this as very competitive, and looks forward to having the tools that are in that agreement work towards recruitment of new physicians and keeping and retaining the physicians that we have.”

McPhee was asked if she can provide a date for the opening of a walk-in clinic in Whitehorse.

“No, I can’t do that, because we’re where – I hope it’s tomorrow,” she responded.

“But the truth of the matter is that we’re working on many options. As I’ve said, we’re talking to local medical practitioners and nurse practitioners to determine how that might fit into their business plan, and how we can support that.”

As to whether she favours private clinics, McPhee said, “Absolutely. We’re talking about a clinic that will be a private walk-in clinic. Similar to the businesses that operate at – Klondike Medical, Whitehorse Medical – those are private businesses.”

McPhee was asked if the current stampede of patients to the Whitehorse General Hospital emergency ward in the absence of a walk-in clinic is a good use of public funds.

“Well, the emergency room is there for emergencies,” she replied. “And for individuals who cannot get care in other places, don’t have access to primary care.

“There are people who have family doctors who might have to pursue a trip to the emergency room on a weekend, for instance, if they needed something that they couldn’t get in an emergency style, whether it be antibiotics or service or cast for a broken arm.

“I mean, there are lots of people who still have a medical practitioner assigned to a family doctor that still pursue a trip to the emergency room. And that’s why it’s there. And that’s why we provide that service to everyone in the community.”

She was also asked what kind of funding would go toward a government-supported walk-in clinic.

“I don’t have a number; I would have to go to management board and seek the funding if it was something that we couldn’t manage in this year’s budget.

“But we’ve certainly been generous, I would say, in the concept of the conversations that we’ve had so far.”

McPhee also commented on $240,000 that was earmarked for a walk-in clinic that never materialized.

“That’s the project that we were talking about supporting the administration of it, in order to get it up and running, make sure everybody had licences to work in that kind of an environment, and otherwise to support the initial rent for that kind of thing for the space,” she said.

“But that’s the one that, unfortunately, didn’t get pursued.”

As for physicians who are interested in working in government-funded clinics, McPhee said, “We are you talking to everyone about every option ... we’ve just finished the negotiations with the YMA, we had a very good outcome with respect to that, as I’ve said, that agreement incentivizes doctors to take on more patients.

“So we’re very hopeful that implementation of that will affect the amount of people who don’t have their own doctor. And then obviously, a walk-in clinic style would help some patients who are might otherwise be going to emergency room for care.”

The Constellation clinic, she added, “has been the victim, unfortunately, of supply chain issues, labour issues, all of the things that you are all well aware of are occurring, you know, all of our capital builds.

“We have doctors lined up. It’s my understanding as well as some other staff that have been hired. We will have a temporary location for the Constellation clinic before the final location is completed (approximately the spring of 2023).

“We’re working dramatically to get that open because it will provide a certain level of care and certain quality of care in (a) bilingual situation; in French.”

The territory is home to the second-largest francophone community outside of Quebec and New Brunswick “and a very growing and vibrant community here that has required this service for a long time,” McPhee said.

“And we’ve managed to get there, although, unfortunately, some of the actual physical work is slowing it down. And we’re pursuing that (as) quickly as we can.”

The planned publicly-funded clinic “is one of the steps towards the polyclinic style, in that there will be a number of medical professionals providing service there,” she said.

“And their medical doctors that work there will be – I don’t want to say fee for service or contract just yet ’cause I’m not sure what the final arrangement has been.

“But the fee for services (is) what doctors do currently in their own clinics, and they see patients and then they send bills and your current government pays for it through medical services and Health and Social Services.

“And then there are some physicians that our staff physicians like at the hospitals; there’s not too many but a few. Otherwise, they provide service both at their clinic or at the hospital for fee for service.”

A bilingual clinic was a plank in the Liberals’ 2021 election campaign platform.

Comments (18)

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Groucho d'North on Oct 19, 2022 at 3:52 pm

@Mind your business
You should undertake a bit of research before you spout off in a public forum such as this one. Yukon doctors are private contractors, some own their own clinics too. They are not members of the collective barginning unit or the public service as you noted. Here, this might help you to better understand how it works. https://canadatoday.news/yt/the-yukon-government-and-the-yukon-medical-association-enter-into-a-3-year-contract-to-recruit-physicians-to-the-territory-22870/

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Trouble with the curve on Oct 18, 2022 at 6:24 pm

To Say anything on Oct 16, 2022 at 9:17 pm:

I think it’s important to seek clarification rather than dismiss or make an adverse judgment about what WC is saying or WC’s intelligence.

There may some condition at play that impedes WC’s ability for clear communication but this does not mean that WC does not have an important contribution.

Talk don’t mock!

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Say anything on Oct 16, 2022 at 9:17 pm

@Vlad: do we really need to ask what Wilf meant to say? 😂

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Mind your business on Oct 16, 2022 at 9:13 pm

“The doctors chose not to pursue that business model.” Here’s some news for you hoes: you’re not in business. You’re civil servants with letters after your names. And we’re all less and less impressed with your letters. Pursue whatever imaginary business model you want. The smart patients aren’t pursuing you anymore. You’ll have to up the extortion to continue living high on the hog. Maybe you could push for forced vaccine & more incentives for more doctors who do less and less and less. Oh, I guess you’re already doing that.

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Roy on Oct 15, 2022 at 10:20 pm

@source

and @Juniper

Thanks for the link.

A whopping 4.5% of Yukoners report that French is their primary language.
Close to 30% of New Brunswick’s population is francophone.

It’s not even remotely close :
And I didn’t even look at any other provinces.
A total of 1810 Yukoners are Francophone. A clinic with 2 doctors could treat every single one of them in about a month and a half.
Are we to believe that every Francophone person needs a doctors appointment every 6 weeks in perpetuity?

Or will it more likely be a waste of money, a duplication of services that are already available, but in the end a good source of pandered votes for the Liberals who love to provide niche services for minority groups - all the while ignoring the decades long issue of not enough doctors working in garden variety clinics.

Ignore the big problem and solve the tiny non-problem. The Liberal method of health care delivery.

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Why create barriers in times of need? on Oct 15, 2022 at 9:02 am

We have such an extreme shortage of health options and health professions, why on earth build something that automatically reduces the number of eligible health care staff that can work there? Lose the bilingual part, we don't have the luxury of this and no one will suffer without it. Try to hire staff who speak other languages other than English, sure of course. Don't make it a requirement, we can't afford it this way.

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North_of_60 on Oct 14, 2022 at 8:11 pm

So what if the clinic is 'bilingual'? Most govt services are by law. It's likely additional funding was available for virtue-signaling to the Francophone community.
In any case, we need a walk-in clinic, the bilingual issue is a distraction.

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#victimizedmetoo on Oct 14, 2022 at 7:56 pm

LOL - Of course they are:
The term polyclinic is loaded with myth. Polyclinics are associated with the Soviet Union, generally negatively, and with Cuba, generally positively. However, it was because the polyclinic system failed to provide effective family and preventive care that Cuba started its family doctor system in 1984.

I hope that the apparent advantage of the proposed changes will be weighed against the clear and serious disbenefits.
They have been poo-pooed elsewhere:

message”.
“Voters don’t want funding to move from GP practices to commercial companies who are accountable primarily to shareholders rather than patients,” Buckman will tell a doctors’ conference.
“They want to be treated as patients, not customers. My message to Gordon Brown is this: Whatever you think of GPs, take note of what your electorate thinks.”

The government wants every local authority to build at least one big so-called polyclinic, grouping together a team of family doctors with nurses and other health services, and open seven days a week from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.

The L-NDP alliance of chaos and destruction have told you and then demonstrated to you that they are going to fundamentally alter Canadian society. They are doing it!

Canada has become a nation of sociopaths governed by psychopaths. If you get the distinction then I can be hopeful. I seriously intend this and it can be demonstrated by the plethora of evidence available to us in the public domain. The list is infinite. But this current vision of the future of medicine offered by McPhee is cause for a public inquiry, a mandatory vote even. No abstentions for anyone in the electorate.

Consider this:

To appease concerns over the future of primary care, will we see polyclinics rebranded as health centres? Rob Finch investigates

Polyclinics will end traditional general practice in every area of the country, leading to factory-style care in supersized group practices, with no thought for continuity of patient care. That was the thinking that led GPs from Worcestershire to make a six hour round trip to 10 Downing Street to petition Gordon Brown against the policy last month.

Let me be clear here though. It’s not that these members of the L-NDP Syndicate are themselves psychopathic. However, their political identity is clearly so.

Their antisocial tendencies are blatantly, even patently, obvious. The continued infringement of the rights of others is anathema to any proper thinking individual yet this problem continues to be advanced against the people. To the detriment of all peoples as they are marshalling in their segregated dysfunction as winners and losers… As victims of their mutual contempt.

Resource:

https://www.gponline.com/polyclinics-bad-need/article/800404
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-polyclinics-idUKL1179114920080612

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2335232/

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Source on Oct 14, 2022 at 7:53 pm

@Roy https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/start
Feel free to explore.

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Ex-MOA on Oct 14, 2022 at 4:49 pm

Maybe there needs to be a review of all Plexia (this is the system the physician clinics use) patients and it compared with the Insured Health records to make sure all those who have moved away and who have passed on are removed off a physicians roster. It would also be nice if GP's were around to see their patients. My doctor is always working in emerge and spends very little time in the clinic. Maybe WGH should bring in emerge specialists so that GP's can be GP's. Also maybe the good ole boys club can let the Hospitalists look after Patients in the hospital instead of "needing things to be the way they have always been." The hospital hired hospitalists so GP's are not trying to see patients in the clinic and at the hospital. Quite often doctors have a "group" that take turns seeing their patients in hospital which did not provide good use of resources or continuity of care. Then GP's could see their patients. Also if we went to physicians being salaried then we could actually attract more doctors to the Yukon because right now we have a reputation of not paying for months with the current fee for service model. Doctors have bills to pay too and it would stop needless tests being done and people padding their billing.

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Roy on Oct 14, 2022 at 1:04 pm

@Juniper

"Second largest Quebec-French community outside of Quebec."

Do you have a link that backs this up?

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True Crime on Oct 14, 2022 at 11:12 am

McPhee explains that, “… it is a very important long-term plan because it does envision polyclinics.”

Polyclinics are a disaster wherever they have been implemented. And we are well aware that Liberalism uses disaster politics to achieve their aims against the will of the people.

Cattle and sheep are victims of polyclinic methodology… They are literally herded up and given mass injections without regard to individual need all in the name of the herd or the flock.

Needs are no longer individualized… You will lose the right to self-determination, to choose. Polyclinics are part of the centralization of authority - To insure and ensure conformity to an ideal vision of citizenship… A very Orwellian one at that…

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-polyclinics-idUKL1179114920080612

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Vlad on Oct 14, 2022 at 10:45 am

@Wilf - did you want to say, "she does Not know..."?

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bonanzajoe on Oct 13, 2022 at 9:16 pm

And since I'm not bilingual, I guess I have to depend on the local quackery.

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Bingo on Oct 13, 2022 at 4:56 pm

Why in the name of pearl does this have to be a bilingual clinic, probably why it’s taking so long. I’m sure those who prefer to parlez vous will all of a sudden understand English when is comes to getting a prescription.

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Juniper Jackson on Oct 13, 2022 at 4:46 pm

Second largest Quebec-French community outside of Quebec. I think we need a walk in clinic. But, there is a reason the Medical Association pulled out of the project. What are the Liberals really up to this time?

Even over-worked Doctors agree we need a walk in. My objection comes from associating this clinic with a primarily French audience. Bilingual should mean that French and/or other languages will be available. But, this article, quoting the world famous McPhee, seems to be targeted at the French Canadians from the country of Quebec. ("Quebec wants to insert two bullet points into the 1867 Constitution Act — one that says "Quebecers form a nation" and another that says "French shall be the only official language of Quebec. It is also the common language of the Quebec nation.") (Quebec has never ratified the Canadian Constitution; as its own Nation, Quebec should have no influence over the Nation of Canada.) But, I digress..back to the topic.

It's going to be hard to put qualified French, Chinese, German, Ukrainian, Congolese dialects, etc. into this clinic. Unless, of course, Bilingual means ONLY French. Even then, it's going to be an exorbitant cost attached to staffing. So, what are the options? Staff it with with advanced training nurses. Nurse Practitioners. Staff it with medical personable from other countries, that have perhaps failed to pass Canadian licensing requirements? or.. pay qualified people what they want and just get it off the ground. I am so totally against the poly clinic concept. With a poly clinic, you see what's available, but you have to go through a 'triage' first. You talk to a nurse who decides if you need to see a doctor. If you do, you see whoever is around, there is no "my" doctor. Or the nurse may decide you can see an advance practice nurse who can write some prescriptions. Can we sue that advance practice for misdiagnosing you? Not if the Liberals pass a law saying you can't. Poly clinics work where there is a gypsy, or floating population, as in the Congo, where tribes are constantly traveling. But, not in a fixed population. Jesus, i hate the Liberals. A country wide force of destruction.

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Wilf Carter on Oct 13, 2022 at 3:12 pm

She does know what she is talking about!!!

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oui oui oui on Oct 13, 2022 at 2:22 pm

Will they serve French fries?

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