Whitehorse Daily Star

Anger ensues after Keno City’s second fire

A second fire in Keno City has residents there even more enflamed against the lack of fire protection in the settlement.

By Tim Giilck on February 11, 2021

A second fire in Keno City has residents there even more enflamed against the lack of fire protection in the settlement.

On Wednesday, two months after the community’s historic Keno City Hotel burned to the ground, a resident lost the cabin he’d been living in while building a new residence.

The home owner wasn’t available for an interview, but Amber Smith, a neighbour and the head of the Keno City Residents Council, spoke Wednesday about what she saw.

“I received a call from another resident at 10:22 a.m. who noticed volumes of smoke coming from his home. I was so snuggly warm in bed that I didn’t notice. I checked out the window and sure enough, it was blazing,” Smith said.

“I ran across with an extinguisher. Other residents were already on scene removing combustible items like jerry cans and motor oil, etc.

“My boyfriend started hooking up hoses to the kitchen sink and a gas-powered pump. Unfortunately, we were 50 feet short to effectively reach the property.”

Smith said she placed a call to 911 at approximately 10:30 a.m. Since the closure of its fire hall in recent years, the community is served by the Mayo Fire Department – which is 60 kilometres away.

“The Mayo fire brigade did respond approximately 45-60 minutes later; however, the cabin was mostly consumed by that point. RCMP also responded,” Smith said.

“The cabin was small and could have been contained if we had a fire truck,” she added.

“Alexco employees responded with a large loader to haul a motor home out of the way,” she said of the mining company workers. “It sustained minimal exterior damage, from what I could see.

“Thankfully, there wasn’t any wind,” she added.

“There is a new cabin under construction on the property which wasn’t damaged. Residents were piling snow onto and around that structure to prevent combustion.”

Smith said Keno residents are certain the fire could have been put out if fire equipment had been available. The Yukon government removed the community’s fire truck.

“How many homes and businesses need to burn down in Keno before YG takes accountability for the wreckage they’ve wrought here?” she asked.

“They have been de-commissioning Keno piece by piece. Water, fire protection, our transfer station.

“We think the YG would sooner let Keno burn to the ground. At what point is something going to be done?”

The residents’ council has been savagely critical of the government over the lack of fire protection for the last two months – with little progress being evident.

“It’s past time for minister Streicker and fire marshal Paterson to take accountability for a bungled policy,” Smith said.

“They’re out of touch with the realities of rural, unincorporated communities. The made-in-Whitehorse, one-size-fits-all approach to policy-making is ignorant of community knowledge and traditional ways of knowing. It’s failing us,” Smith said.

“The Government of Yukon is aware of the cabin fire that took place in Keno today,” Kathryn Hallett, a spokesperson with the Department of Community Services, wrote in an email statement to the Star Wednesday afternoon.

“We are heartbroken for the community and are sending our deepest sympathies that they are experiencing another loss on the heels of the Keno City Hotel in December,” Hallett added.

“We are grateful to hear that all community members are safe, and thankful to Alexco Resources for their quick action in ensuring the fire did not spread to nearby structures.  

“The RCMP were deployed to investigate and determined that the cause of the fire was accidental. As such, there will be no formal investigation.” she said.

Hallett repeated the government’s stance that it’s doing all it can, but that the situation is difficult.

“Low population density and vast distances make fire suppression in rural Yukon uniquely challenging, with volunteer recruitment and retention being a key component.” Hallett said.

“Personnel with the proper training is integral to a safe fire response, especially when large equipment such as fire apparatuses are involved.

“The Government of Yukon is happy to work with Keno and all communities to train volunteers, but cannot provide equipment to people who are not properly trained to use it safely.”

The government maintains no one in Keno has signed up for the volunteer firefighting training program it has available.

It’s still working on setting up a review of the Keno situation, Hallett added.

The historic hotel, which had been built in the 1920s, was destroyed the night of Dec. 11.

Owner Leo Martel, who had no fire insurance, believes the blaze was deliberately set.

Comments (17)

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Firehouse on Feb 17, 2021 at 5:33 pm

@ Vern

It IS a take it or leave it situation. YG is liable should they give gear to untrained, uncertified people. If some Kenoite got hurt or killed fighting a fire it would all be YGs fault.
Keno needs to own this. Fundraise and buy your own truck then you can do what ever you want. I’ll even chip in a couple hundred to help out.

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Vern Schlimbesser on Feb 17, 2021 at 6:49 am

@ True Blue
Have and do.
Of course you are correct, there is no way Keno can have a fully functional Fire Department, that is obvious. No one lives there that doesn't want to, that is probably also correct. But they have the right to live there and do. So, do you think it is OK to haul away their small fire truck, remove their water supply and lock the door because they can't get enough people trained? No of course not.
Ironic is it not that Faro was in the same boat not so many years ago. The town was almost completely empty, but today YTG announced a $12,000,000.00 Fire Hall will be constructed this summer, on top of a multi-million dollar (I don't have the figure at hand), new RCMP detachment. Good thing the town didn't burn down back then I guess? (No wait, it did!).
All I am advocating is that YTG's decision in Keno is based on their perceived liability. That is NOT acceptable, short sighted, and somewhat vindictive when you know the story. I also am slightly angered by the Whitehorse-centric attitude that has developed in modern times and I guess that shows huh?
Someday Keno will have enough people to staff a trained volunteer department.

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True Blue on Feb 15, 2021 at 10:13 pm

@Vern - There are what, 10 residents in Keno? So should every cluster of 10 or more people outside any municipality get their own fire truck and other equipment?

If you choose to live away from a population centre, then you also accept the risks. Move to Mayo if you don't feel safe.
Just as people shouldn't live in the communities if they feel that they are too far away from the hospital. The simple truth is that you are much more likely to die if you have an accident, heart attack, stroke or whatever if you live hours away from Whitehorse (IE the hospital). If you can't accept that, then move.

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YukonMax on Feb 15, 2021 at 6:42 am

@Vern
"to the area visible from the top of Grey Mountain"
Quite right! What they don't want, end up in the communities, i.e. the 7 generators Faro has inherited. If resources are going to communities, they feel cheated.
The communities are no match to them and AYC is a total sell out made out of them.

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Patti Eyre on Feb 12, 2021 at 3:51 pm

Oh Vern get over it. Folks live all over Yukon, you expect full service for every little hamlet? Ya. Right!

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Vern Schlimbesser on Feb 12, 2021 at 12:56 pm

At one time not so long ago it was the Yukon Governments prime responsibility to ensure that essential services were available to ALL Yukon people and communities that otherwise would not be viable.

Here is exactly that situation. Unfortunately for Keno in recent times, even though the Yukon Government has grown ten-fold, the focus has become themselves and their own center-of-power and rules. Liability is more important now than contributing to society. If that society happens to be a long way away, or of unrecognized value, it should not continue. That used to be arrogance, today it is how politicians behave because that is how they are rewarded.

I understand most contributing Yukoner's are tired of many asking for more than they contribute, or special consideration due to some right claimed or assumed from some situation. But the Yukon, the REAL Yukon, is not confined to the area visible from the top of Grey Mountain. Let's remember that.

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Vern Schlimbesser on Feb 12, 2021 at 11:57 am

The volunteer fire-fighter training is excellent, I have had it for years, and yes Woodcutter I do volunteer. But YTG is covering their own ass here, nothing more.

People in Keno (like in all communities) come and go. So does the ability to meet YTG standards. Ambulance services went through this years ago you might recall. One size does not fit all especially. There are lots of discarded tankers available. Give them an old truck. Let them stick it in their great museum (or not). Of the billion dollars spent here surely a couple of thousand can be found to turn the heat back on in the shop and cut them a key?

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Spud on Feb 12, 2021 at 10:45 am

We live in Whitehorse, our property tax in excess of $4500, covers fire protection. No doubt YG has grants to City to help pay for fire department. At all fires a major component will be volunteers. Our volunteers out number the population of Keno. If we taxpayers purchase a fire truck for Keno, It will be frozen up all winter anyway. There is not enough volunteers in Keno to to keep a fire dept. active and viable. Perhaps we taxpayers could make a donation to assist the victims to move. I'll bet the victims do not pay any taxes of any kind anyway. Cumon Kenoites, give your head a shake and stop whining and looking for a handout.

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Harvey on Feb 12, 2021 at 8:53 am

Want a hospital too, vote in the Yukon NDP Party.

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Woodcutter on Feb 12, 2021 at 7:49 am

You can be angry all you want, the fact is that the few people who live in Keno need to take responsibility for their own safety and operations of their town. YG is shutting down most services cause of the handful of people who live there don't warrant the money being spent. I've spent a few weeks working out of Keno and can attest that the entire town is a fire trap. Instead of complaining at the citizens committee, volunteer for your own fire dept.

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Max Mack on Feb 11, 2021 at 7:30 pm

Perhaps the Fire Marshall's Office needs to take a good, hard look at why - relatively recently, within the last few years - they decided to impose quite tough standards for volunteer firefighter certification?

This decision has had a detrimental effect on the volunteer brigades. Many people in rural communities cannot dedicate the time and other resources needed to comply with this standard.

What is really going on here?

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Vern Schlimbesser on Feb 11, 2021 at 5:56 pm

Some of you guys need to park your perceptions. These guys are not asking for a Whitehorse style big-city fire department. They want a water truck and a pump and some tools.
YTG gave them a take-it-or-leave-it approach and 25 people can't deliver the level of commitment YTG demanded and so they removed the truck, the water supply, and locked the door to prevent the access to the building.
This new urban mindset that passes for the Yukon view is as unwarranted as it is disgusting!

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Nathan Living on Feb 11, 2021 at 4:52 pm

Stop the blaming.

How many people there can commit to volunteering and training and ensuring they are available to respond to fires 24 - 7 all year.
Why not ensure each residence has basic things like a hose to a tap and fire extinguishers and a large water tank perhaps. Do it yourselves with very basic training and equipment.

Clean those stovepipes and check the wiring. Look out for your neighbours and stop hounding Minister Streicker who is a nice guy who may help you if you get your act together.

Stop being victims. Rat out those people who may have burned the hotel down. Work something out with the mine. Do not build castles in the sky without foundations.

Ok, rants over.

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bonanzajoe on Feb 11, 2021 at 3:45 pm

Maybe, Kenoites just need to set up some system on their own. I'm sure the Government would help them with ideas and financially.

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JC on Feb 11, 2021 at 2:38 pm

I think this unincorporated, rural community is "out of touch with the realities of rural, unincorporated communities."

Where are your volunteers? Certain services only become available once certain population levels justifies them. That's just the way she goes.
People in Keno seem to want to live far away from everything, including services, but still want those services. That just isn't realistic, and they need to look inward to make that work. Bitching about a "made in Whitehorse solution" just isn't an honest assessment on the situation.

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BnR on Feb 11, 2021 at 1:42 pm

“How many homes and businesses need to burn down in Keno before YG takes accountability for the wreckage they’ve wrought here?” she asked.

Quit blaming everyone else. Keno residents need to take responsibility and follow the same requirements for volunteer fire depts as any other community. You're not special.

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Andy on Feb 11, 2021 at 1:37 pm

Keno needs to take this on themselves. Even if a truck was available there is no trained crew.
If you choose to live in such a place you assume the risk, and you can lessen the risk by having trained volunteers.

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