Whitehorse Daily Star

Alcohol consumption, YLC clarity may be studied

More than half of Yukoners want to have a minimum distance set between liquor retail outlets and “sensitive sites,” according to recent statistics gathered by the territorial government.

By Palak Mangat on August 2, 2018

More than half of Yukoners want to have a minimum distance set between liquor retail outlets and “sensitive sites,” according to recent statistics gathered by the territorial government.

About 56 per cent of those who responded as part of the public engagement process for the review of the 40-year-old Yukon Liquor Act supported the idea of setting a minimum distance between areas that sell liquor and sites like parks, day cares, shelters and schools.

It’s partly in hopes of improving responsible consumption, John Streicker, the minister responsible for the Yukon Liquor Corp. (YLC), told the Star Wednesday.

Some of the feedback received was published in a “What we heard” document Wednesday by the government.

Though it varies in details, Streicker said, there were some major themes.

“It ranges from support for our local bars and restaurants while at the same time challenging us to push this notion of responsible consumption further,” he said.

It detailed feedback received from consultations which consisted of 44 meetings held in 14 communities across the territory. It was part of the larger review process that began in November 2017.

Meetings wrapped up in March of this year, the document noted. About 450 Yukoners also took part in an online survey that ran about six weeks, it added.

Streicker pointed out that with the decades-old act not being majorly reviewed for at least a decade since 2001, it was high time for it to be modernized.

An example of modernizing that approach, the minister continued, could involve requesting that somebody who is intoxicated leave an establishment act as more of a last resort.

Instead, other factors like the possibility of the person driving home intoxicated, or poor weather conditions, could be considered, with people instead being encouraged to sober up before being kicked out.

“It’s about helping foster more responsible drinking while acknowledging that our food and beverage, and alcohol production, industries are important,” Streicker said.

The review also presents an opportunity to clarify language and the relationship between the government, the YLC and the Yukon Liquor Board, Streicker said.

The document notes one of the themes as “removing contradictions between the Act and Regulation, and making the language congruent with other legislation and government policies.”

That feedback comes after pricing concerns raised in June. The YLC sent a notice to wholesale licensees detailing proposed hikes that could have taken effect on July 1.

It led to some restaurants and bars expressing frustration that they had not been consulted with enough notice just weeks before the Canada Day long weekend.

Premier Sandy Silver assured Yukoners that his government had not approved a hike to draught beer prices.

The YLC maintained it’s the corporation that calls the shots when it came to setting prices under the act.

In its current form, the act states in part that the YLC has “sole power and jurisdiction” to, among other things, “set the price at which liquor may be sold at liquor stores.

This could be clarified with the review, Streicker said.

Meanwhile, respondents were also asked if they would support the setting of minimum prices for drinks sold in restaurants and bars. More than half (53 per cent) said they would not.

The act also mentions directives that can be issued by the government, which consist of in part, targets that the corporation is obligated to hit – which the act notes can be “in the best interest” of the corporation.

Matt King, the corporation’s president, told the Star in June that examining the relationship between a Crown corporation like the YLC and the government could be useful to look at during the review.

That’s something Streicker said could be on the table.

“You need to be very clear about how close or distant it is from the government and where the decision making is,” Streicker said, speaking more broadly of the governance of a corporation.

“Because those concerns got raised, we will now look to develop policy around that.”

Streicker noted, though, that it could be spelled out in the regulation “later on” rather than the act itself.

He continued that this review can line up nicely with cannabis regulations, as both can cause impairment.

The act governing cannabis legalization in the territory, the Cannabis Control and Regulation Act, passed during the past spring’s legislative sitting.

“Not everything is mirrored, but we want to be cognitive of how the two acts could work alongside each other,” said Streicker.

Based partly on the feedback provided, he said, it was decided that it was best to work on the act and regulations at the same time for continuity purposes.

After seeing “some of the decisions that we might take to (be) addressing these various issues that arose, it might be regulations and it might be the act.”

Streicker said that with the possibility of buying cannabis either in person at the YLC’s retail store or online through the corporation’s store, the government wanted to see if there was support to consider the online sale of alcohol as well.

“We are looking at in the future, e-commerce coming in – and that being” something to consider.

According to the document, though, consumers were “generally satisfied” with the access to and availability of liquor.

More than half (58 per cent) ranked as adequate the availability of alcohol at retail through YLC stores and/or off-sales locations.

Yukoners were also asked about other ways to access liquor, like offering remote sales through pick-up or delivery services, as other jurisdictions do.

Most were slow to warm up to this idea.

Almost half (46 per cent) opposed the idea of home delivery services, with under 30 per cent supporting it.

The social responsibility of the YLC and businesses selling liquor, education and prevention campaigns around the harms of drinking and pregnancy and encouraging moderation initiatives were also topics mentioned in the feedback.

The government hopes to bring the act back to the legislature during the fall of 2019.

It will look to form an advisory group that will consider, among other things, responsible consumption.

There are roughly 150 licensed establishments that sell liquor, including bars, sports clubs, RV parks and distilleries.

The YLC operates six stores in Faro, Haines Junction, Mayo, Watson Lake, Dawson City and here in Whitehorse.

Comments (6)

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Doug Ryder on Aug 7, 2018 at 10:03 pm

@ Max Mack - We need saving? You are right though as there were not likely any homeless street people responding to the survey. Let us set aside the real issues and deal with the contrived. They are much easier. Forgive my irony please.

However, not all of the beer cans and broken liquor bottles that littered the school grounds and the streets were from the homeless inebriated. There were a lot of fine upstanding members of the community whose children were responsible for some of the mess. Blind eye, blind eye, please help me turn it, said the politician.

But yes, we need to call in a favour of Buck Rogers to deal with the Draconian Empire here in the Yukon. Social Engineering at its most base.

There should be warning labels on the ballots - The mistake you are about to make is one that will trouble you for a minimum of 4 years, leave you baffled and dumbfounded, disoriented and/or disillusioned and cost you a lot of money while making your existance dull and painful. You will also experience a loss of common sense, motivation and free will. You will also be likely to suffer a repetitive strain motion from all of the head scratching you will be doing...

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Max Mack on Aug 6, 2018 at 3:38 pm

@Smitty
@Doug Ryder

With regards to "responsible consumption", I'm sorry to say that John Streicker and his hangers-ons do not have the chronically drunk street people in mind.
No siree. Streicker's target for his moral crusade is you and me. His ultimate objective is to pathologize ANY consumption of alcohol, particularly whenever the politicos can mouth the words "driving" and "impairment" in the same sentence. But, any "study" or "research" or "expert" purporting to show that alcohol is bad for you will do.

The end result will be the same -- dramatically increased costs for alcohol and a whole bunch of over-the-top draconian laws that have already been shown to NOT work and that probably also violate the Charter, such as automatic roadside suspensions based on artificially-low guidelines established by entirely questionable "science".

The street drunks will continue to do what they do (good luck dealing with that), but Streicker's target isn't them anyway.

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Seriously? on Aug 6, 2018 at 9:24 am

This apparently is our "culture". A very sad state of affairs.

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Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2018 at 8:21 pm

Smitty and Doug...great contribution to a discussion good job fellas.
Every point made is valid, might I add yet another?
BOLE....the bigotry of lower expectations drives it all in my opinion.
When the bar is set to the ground, there is little to reach for.
Know this folks...many of our chronic public inebriated “if” and or when they snap, get violent and cross paths with non nefarious non pisstank citizens?
If it is yourself a victim of said fictional scenario you will learn two things.
...at least two.
One, the insane race based criminal code of Canada section 718.2 (e)
Two, for the regular less culturally important citizens, there is a term you will never forget NCR!
Those three letters are more in style than yoga pants, not criminally responsible.
The potential scars from a encounter with a “harmless drunk” one may receive will be there, just no actual responsibility for fictitious illustration.
There are a few folks not here now because they were drowned, beat to death...all downtown folks.
So yes, an issue it is but up here?
SHHHhhhhhhh, don’t wake the moose sleeping in the room.
Oh yeah whilst you may be in court, you may hear all the reasons why BOLE has to be, all the things you did wrong in your life that created a mess 300 years ago....despite you never even a tadpole in your daddies scrotum, nor was he in his dads etc...still your fault.
Who knows in the courtroom today, the judge may order you to apologize for even being here to get accosted by said fictional drunk if indeed a citizen of the cultural elites.

Please, let us carry on freely expressing ourselves...whilst we can.
It is after all the current year, legislation percolating through Ottawa right now....that has a very different opinion on freely expressing oneself.

Brought to us by the architects of most the historical messes, the liberal party of Canada....Mr. Dress Ups crew.
Bet y’all never knew ya could move to east Vancouver....with zero carbon footprint eh?
Wonder what the carbon footprint is for dozens of trips to WGH in those fast flashy noisy cabs per week?

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Doug Ryder on Aug 3, 2018 at 10:38 pm

Good post Smitty. When I was in Whitehorse I too was disgusted by the acceptance of public alcohol consumption. Beer cans and liquor bottles littered school grounds to the point that it was not difficult to envision children toting packs trudging their way to the school doors as the crinkling sound of aluminum heralded their arrival in beer soaked footwear. The broken glass...

Then there are the regular disturbations, the shouts, the screams, punctuating drunken, pugilistic imbroglios... Individuals strewn about in any manner of intoxicated contortion displaying their battle wounds in various stages of healing... Psychological and physical...

Many of these individuals freshly released from the court on conditions to abstain. Some just popped out from the Domestic Court passing the bottle to their court ordered no-contact in celebration of their freedom and reunification, some of them dangerous offenders. Then there are those in the Wellness Court who maintain sobriety through regular doses of marijuana who rarely engage in reality and are therefore unable to develop the psychological tools for actual wellness. But hey, if the court fails to dabble in reality then why should its subjects be so troubled? The system carries on blissfully unaware as it is blinded by the Machiavellianism often inherent within the premoral hubris of the youthful focus on self. Look at my judgments... They are so pretty and witty and...

Outside the courtroom life goes on, there’s John Doe on the bench at 3rd and Wood... The lawyers roll on by with their totes, the court workers skirt on by for their coffee and the Probation Officers go -

Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

The deliberate ignorance of the system appears to be so masterful that one could mistake it for an intelligence. But really, it is about survival from the point of view of an ostrich, bury your head in the sand, stick your ass in the air and try not to fart, you might not get noticed!

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Smitty on Aug 3, 2018 at 5:43 am

I wish I had done the survey. Anything to do with responsible drinking in this town please sign me up! I totally agree with legislation considering sensitive areas. I am disgusted by our acceptance of public alcohol consumption and intoxication in this town. I also hate that my children are quite familiar with what being heavily intoxicated looks like because they see it all the time here. Alcohol delivery? That would be a disaster. Bad idea.

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