Whitehorse Daily Star

Alberta gun owner’s conviction is upheld

A Yukon Supreme Court judge has ruled that despite his rights having been breached, a gun owner conviction should be upheld.

By Pierre Chauvin on March 3, 2016

A Yukon Supreme Court judge has ruled that despite his rights having been breached, a gun owner conviction should be upheld.

Abran Driedger, of Grande Prairie, Alta., was convicted of the possession of a weapon at an unauthorized place and careless use of a firearm last Sept. 30.

At issue during the trial was whether his rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms had been breached, and whether that breach warranted throwing out the evidence against him.

The trial judge ruled that the search that led to a handgun being seized – the only evidence against Driedger – was illegal, but admitted the evidence.

In an eight-page decision, Justice Ron Veale upheld much of the ruling.

The infringement on Driedger’s rights was minor and inadvertent, and the handgun seized is reliable evidence, he ruled.

Driedger was driving on the Alaska Highway on Sept. 12, 2014 when he was stopped for a roadside check.

RCMP agents accompanied by conservation officers (CO’s) were conducting checks looking for Wildlife Act offences.

CO Jeffrey Piwek told the court he saw what he believed to be a gun case at the back of Driedger’s car.

He asked the man to look at it and found a handgun with ammunition.

Driedger told him he only had the proper paperwork for Alberta.

He was subsequently arrested and charged.

That search was unlawful because it wasn’t within Piwek’s power as a CO, the trial judge ruled.

Justice Dennis Schmidt noted that the territory’s Wildlife Act authorizes conservation officers to ask drivers to produce wildlife, a firearm, a licence, a permit or “other things requested by the officer relating to this act.”

But Piwek chose to bypass that and decided to search the car, the judge said, ruling that was a violation of Driedger’s Charter rights.

Schmidt also noted that Driedger consented to the search by unlocking the back door of his car.

That was a mistake, Veale ruled, because the trial judge didn’t apply the legal test to determine whether consent for a search had been obtained.

The test sets out three criteria.

First, people must be told they can refuse or withdraw their consent for the search at any time.

The person must be told about the consequences of consenting to the search.

The person must also be informed of his or her right to counsel to have the consequences to consenting to a search explained.

“I asked him to please open the door,” Piwek said during cross-examination.

“At no time did you seek permission from Mr. Driedger to enter the vehicle...?” Driedger’s lawyer asked him.

“No.”

Even with that mistake, Veale ruled, it would have reached the same conclusion in admitting the evidence.

Comments (16)

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Josey Whales on Mar 9, 2016 at 4:46 pm

Firearms laws should be treated very seriously and if enforcement staff violate someone's rights the judge should step back and consider the breach in light of protecting people, and the seriousness of the offense.

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Josey Wales on Mar 8, 2016 at 11:43 pm

Here is a great reason to be able to shoot back, granted in the USofA but state actors? Well they act, and as of late?
Gee, look what can happen if permits and fees are not paid, call in the state actors.
We cannot serve and protect ourselves, they seem disinterested/unmotivated in doing so....what could possibly happen?

Kinda blew my mind at the 6 minute mark, everything after is S.O.P. on the farm.
Bad bad subjects, walking around without a hallway pass...
Most tyrannical governments loathe guns, hence the daily attempts at eradicating the concept...of any freedom.

try this...https://youtu.be/YWLHiU8gYWY

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wolverine on Mar 8, 2016 at 5:50 pm

Killing flies with a hammer.

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ProScience Greenie on Mar 8, 2016 at 11:59 am

Sorry Fast Eddy but I've become overly sensitive about the erosion of our basic rights and civil liberties by excessive fear mongering and bubble wrap coming from all directions. It was the Charles Manson thing that set me off.

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Ytres on Mar 8, 2016 at 8:38 am

So let's say in a similar "illegal" search, drugs or kiddy porn was found and the perp was let off. Most of you would be howling over the technicality that allowed them to get off.
The law is clear, he had to have the right paperwork, he did not. Black and white. Don't like it? Change the law.

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Fast Eddy on Mar 7, 2016 at 9:05 pm

@proscience greenie
Wonderful rant but it doesn't apply to anything in my post. I was talking about search and seizure by COs while they are inspecting vehicles and such. This has nothing to do with sidewalk search or home search that you rail on about in complete irrelevance.
Interestingly in some Provincial legislation the CO is given the same authority as a Peace Officer and vice-versa.

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woodcutter on Mar 6, 2016 at 7:53 pm

What a silly s**t, all he needed to do was fill out the proper paper work, or bury the gun case under his stuff, not leave it out in the open.

Thanks Ron, for removing a threat from the Yukon and thanks for providing us with a clear explanation of how we can assert our rights when the RCMP decide to enter our property.

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ProScience Greenie on Mar 6, 2016 at 11:12 am

Maybe Fast Eddy we should give them the authority to enter our homes now and then for a quick search just to be on the safe side. A little random frisk on the sidewalk because you never know. Safety first eh.

The erosion and end of our basic rights and freedoms will come by a death of a thousand cuts, begged for by every ideological camp full of fear over this or that issue that scares the pants of them - armed Charles Manson types on our Alaska Hwy, terrorists hiding behind doorways, politically incorrect people hurting our feelings with cartoons, skateboarders passing a joint in some park, someone cutting firewood in the middle of nowhere and and so many other horrors that have people screaming for more big brother and more bubble wrap. It's all just ridiculous - we're safer than we think.

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Fast Eddy on Mar 4, 2016 at 5:44 pm

I don't know about all the legal begal ranglings but I would like to see COs have the authority to search for illegal guns if they so choose. Who wants Charles Manson running around when a CO search would have nipped it in the bud.

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north_of_60 on Mar 4, 2016 at 4:43 pm

If the item in question was anything but a handgun, or there was some racial component, then a Liberal judiciary would have very likely ruled differently.
This is a relatively insignificant paperwork 'crime'. Any person authorized to transport a handgun in Alberta would meet the requirement to transport in the Yukon. The same federal laws apply across Canada. The person charged failed to fill out the correct forms. As well, the 'careless use' charge is questionable. The handgun would have to be loaded, in the open on or beside a person, for it to be 'in use'. If the handgun was unloaded in an un-locked case and not trigger locked, only improper storage and transport would apply. This does not appear to be an impartial judiciary decision and that sets a dangerous precedent.

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Max Mack on Mar 4, 2016 at 2:47 pm

Glad to know our constitutionally protected rights can be violated. That's so heart-warming. Thank you, Ron Veale, for protecting us from the looming police state.

Oh, wait. What?

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moe on Mar 3, 2016 at 10:35 pm

I feel bad for this guy. Sorry, I just think the wrong decision was made here. Enough people get off pretty much scott free when they have committed serious crimes that I do believe the fact that this person is a functional, sober, sane person.

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ProScience Greenie on Mar 3, 2016 at 5:14 pm

A lot more dangerous criminals out there than this paperwork violating Albertan.
And really, we need to curb these check stops. Big Brother has enough power already. Innocent until proven guilty.

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Thomas Brewer on Mar 3, 2016 at 4:39 pm

I have some serious concerns with this ruling - essentially Judge Veale is saying the authorities do not have to follow the processes and laws set before them.
This is a very dangerous precedent.

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Very well written good on Mar 3, 2016 at 4:36 pm

Information for all Yukoners liberals and NDP only make negative comments - where are the leaders of these parties on this issue?

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Josey Wales on Mar 3, 2016 at 3:02 pm

hmm he must be a "whitey" to have such an odd ruling?
It was an administration issue, not a "hard core criminal".
Funny that..I'm of the opinion that we should open carry ATT sans.
Yup you read it right folks with sidearms, trained non felons among us (just as I).
be a lot less dead (Good) folks in the news, despite what the LW media party regurgitate.
less violent offenders creating a record like a phone book.
less of a "real" rape culture, as in might get shot predating humans.
a way to lessen the jihad joe's that are breeding like bacteria.
etc....

nope, we'll call this dude a criminal because his ATT was not "in order"
what a bad bad little "subject" he is, as the courts seem OK with him having less rights as a non gun owner.
He got caught how? yup in a dragnet with game cops and Canada's Waffen SS looking for others without their "papers" in order.

....as Vince Li roams around.
....Trevor the human types are free ranged these days.

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