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Air Canada rapped for poor communication

Hundreds of people travelling to and from Whitehorse via Air Canada this week suffered traumatic reroutes and cancelled flights thanks to an onslaught of weather-based cancellations.

By Gabrielle Plonka on December 18, 2019

Hundreds of people travelling to and from Whitehorse via Air Canada this week suffered traumatic reroutes and cancelled flights thanks to an onslaught of weather-based cancellations.

The airline cancelled five flights between Vancouver and Whitehorse on Tuesday and today.

Eighty-eight people scheduled to land in Whitehorse on Monday were still in limbo late this morning after their original flight rerouted to Anchorage.

Passengers stayed the night in Anchorage and boarded a second flight to Whitehorse on Tuesday – only to be rerouted to Vancouver again.

As of this morning, passengers were scrambling to find a flight from Vancouver that would bring them to the Yukon.

A spokesperson from Air Canada told the Star via email that the flight was “diverted due to weather limitations for landing in Whitehorse.”

It called Anchorage the “optimal diversion location” for operational reasons, and noted that special arrangements were made with American authorities to clear all passengers at customs.

“Air Canada operates more than 1,600 flights every day, and diversions are extremely rare, and diversions that result in an overnight are even rarer,” the email said.

Jenifer Harrison, a passenger aboard Monday evening’s Air Canada flight, spoke with the Star this morning from the Vancouver airport, and said the experience has been challenging. A solidarity has formed among the 88 passengers in the past two days, she said.

Harrison is travelling from the United Kingdom to visit family in the Yukon for Christmas.

When her flight approached Whitehorse on Monday night, she said, she could tell “visibility was poor” when the pilot abruptly redirected.

Passengers waited for several minutes before the pilot informed them they were headed to Anchorage – without apology nor explanation, Harrison said.

She recalled the plane erupting in groans: many passengers did not have passports and were not prepared to land in the United States.

“We didn’t know what was going to happen. People were concerned about medication, baby clothes, access to our luggage,” Harrison said.

“There was not a single piece of information until we were just about to land.”

She said passengers were handed French-language boarding cards in preparation for landing “which didn’t help English-speaking members of the plane.” They were advised that customs was aware some passengers might not have passports.

“They let us off (the plane), the crew disappeared, they didn’t tell us what to do when we got off or what was going to happen.”

Shuttles eventually arrived at around 2 a.m. and took the passengers to a nearby hotel – where food vouchers were not provided by the airline.

Harrison noted that the hotel staff worked hard to be helpful and the hotel itself was beautiful.

“We didn’t have any food, we didn’t have any American money,” she said. “Every Yukoner on that plane looked after every other person.”

Without their luggage, Harrison said, a father in the travel group used the hotel’s shuttle bus to buy diapers for the families with young children, while they waited for their next flight at 3:45 Tuesday afternoon.

When they arrived for the second flight, Harrison said, customs agents discovered that Air Canada had provided the incorrect manifest of passengers – further delaying boarding.

Harrison said they were unsure of their gate number, so they worked as a team to find the correct route – and were met by unapologetic Air Canada staff.

Harrison said her troupe was warned before boarding that the plane might not make it to the planned destination of Whitehorse.

“We flew into nearly Whitehorse, I was on the left-hand side of the plane by the emergency door and I watched Whitehorse fly by,” Harrison said.

Upon landing back in Vancouver, the travellers felt they were once again “abandoned” by Air Canada staff, who instructed them to go to international customs. They were told hotel and food vouchers “may be available,” Harrison said.

In the U.S. departure zone of the Vancouver airport, Harrison said, passengers were provided with a $15 voucher for dinner and a $7 voucher for breakfast. They were told they would receive a confirmation email that evening with information for a flight to Whitehorse this morning.

At the hotel in Vancouver, Harrison said, a $14 breakfast (a bowl of oatmeal) was the cheapest available – twice the cost their vouchers accounted for.

Only a couple of passengers received the confirmation email promised the night before, and the airport this morning was a flurry of confusion and frustration, Harrison said.

“Everyone has come this morning to try to book themselves in,” she told the Star from the airport this morning. “Air Canada staff here have been good, but no one really knows what’s going on.”

As of this morning, Harrison said, many passengers were trying to book seats on an Air North flight for this afternoon, absorbing the extra cost of purchasing a new flight.

“We’re nervous Air Canada won’t land, because they haven’t landed five flights in two days,” she said. “Air Canada won’t tell us anything.”

Harrison said she has been disappointed by Air Canada’s management of the situation from start to finish.

“They haven’t been rude, but they haven’t done anything positive, proactive of helpful,” she said.

“They have some systems they need to work on – they need to work on their communication at all levels.”

Anne Hargreaves was on the flight with Harrison, and said the passengers worked together to get through the travel difficulties.

“(Jenifer) has been so good at figuring things out for us,” Hargreaves told the Star this morning.

“We’re trying to get to Air North, and we’re all praying.”

Though the diversions were complicated, she said, she was relieved to be reunited with her luggage and a fresh set of clothes the previous night.

“I feel really good, now, as long as we get up north,” she said.

Another passenger, Juneau resident Nate Vallier, said he travels in and out of the North often enough that he knows these diversions happen in the winter months.

“When you live in the Yukon and southeast Alaska, you’re prepared,” Vallier said. “Last night was definitely one of the more challenging flights.”

Vallier said while he was prepared to “go with the flow” he heard passengers around him concerned that they wouldn’t have access to medications and other necessities while diverted in Anchorage.

Comments (35)

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Maggie on Dec 22, 2019 at 2:52 am

Air Canada - come on, you have been flying in and out of the Yukon for how long now. You think you would know to update the planes with proper equipment to fly like Air North knowing our weather can change on a dime. And it sounds like Air North needs to start taking air miles and flying further. I love Air North all the way friendly kind, caring, just like family. Air Canada has not time of day for ya unless it is money for them.

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Eric Blair on Dec 21, 2019 at 2:45 pm

More modern language to hide behind, Air Canada did not have a communications problem, according to passengers AC staff disappeared so they could not communicate either well or poorly.
Where they did fail without question is in that old category of Customer Service.

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b on Dec 20, 2019 at 10:03 pm

Take Air Canada and Westjet out of the Yukon aviation equation and watch what happens. Same thing that happened before. $$$

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Whitehorse is important to us, small potatoes to Air Canada on Dec 20, 2019 at 5:57 pm

Knock on wood - but I have never had a problem flying with Air Canada, either using Aeroplan points or booking directly. I agree with the folks who are saying Air North is a great airline - but if the destination is outside of BC or Alberta, it makes sense to book through Air Canada. As Joe's message said, the weather has been 'unusual'. That doesn't excuse the poor communication, but think of the hundreds of airports in Canada and the US that have delayed or canceled or re-routed flights every winter, affecting thousands of people. I feel pretty lucky to have great air service to a place with such a small population.

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Tater on Dec 20, 2019 at 2:52 pm

It's interesting how Air North has to explain the issue about their competition not landing...........

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Posted at Air North website Dec 18 on Dec 20, 2019 at 6:08 am

Coping with winter flying weather
December 18, 2019

WHITEHORSE, YT – 18 December 2019 – Coping with winter flying weather.

This fall has brought some unusual weather to the Yukon and this has caused more flight delays and cancellations than we normally experience. In view of this, I thought that our travelers might be interested in learning more about how airlines are able to cope with poor weather at some of the airports we fly to.

In order for pilots to safely and legally land an aircraft on a runway they must, by a specified point in their landing approach, be able to see enough of the runway to land and stop safely. The required distance could be as little as a few feet above the ground and as little as one eighth of a mile visibility or it could be as much as several thousand feet above the ground and several miles visibility. The exact cloud ceiling and visibility requirements are determined by equipment that is available for each runway (usually provided by Nav Canada) at a particular airport and by the equipment installed in the aircraft. To illustrate, here are some examples of how poor weather might impact our flights to Whitehorse (YXY), Vancouver (YVR), and Dawson City (YDA), three airports that Air North, Yukon’s Airline flies to and from regularly.

For Whitehorse, with winds from the north, calm winds, or light winds from the south, aircraft are authorized to land from the south with cloud ceilings as low as 200 feet above the ground. When the winds are blowing strongly from the south, landings must be made from the north, and the airport equipment available for landings from the north permits landings when cloud ceilings are at least 388 feet above the ground if the airline has the required equipment in the aircraft or 725 feet above the ground if the airline does not have the required equipment installed. While all Air North aircraft have the equipment required for lower ceiling approaches from the north, it should be noted that the clouds have to be almost twice as high when we must land from the north.

For Vancouver, all four main runways are equipped to permit landings with ceilings right down to the ground and visibilities as low as 1/8 mile provided that certain conditions are met by the airline and the airport. These conditions include specialized aircraft equipment and crew training and specialized runway lighting and back-up power generation capability. Air North is authorized to land at YVR with cloud ceilings as low as 200 feet above ground.

For Dawson City, despite the capability of the aircraft to permit landings at ceilings as low as 200 feet in YXY and YVR, the terrain surrounding YDA dictates that the lowest cloud ceiling for any of the instrument approaches is 1666 feet, which is more than four times the required cloud ceiling at either YXY or YVR.

As an airline, it is our job to get you to your destination safely and on time. As a northern airline we have invested in aircraft and aircraft equipment that allow us to do the best job possible at the airports we fly to and from most frequently. Hopefully the foregoing discussion will help our travelers to better understand why weather conditions sometimes dictate delays or cancellations.

Joseph Sparling, President,
Air North, Yukon’s Airline

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Cheer for Air North on Dec 20, 2019 at 4:44 am

Yes, there were "low ceilings" on the dates of travel. It is the lack of communication and the utter disregard for the passengers not to mention all of the families and friends waiting for the plane to land. One poor fellow had to sleep in the airport for two nights, since he drove in from Atlin. A man spent his 91st birthday in Anchorage. When waiting for the flights, families noted the plane flying away, the flight disappeared from the flight schedule and nobody bothered to tell us what was really happening until three hours later. We had to find the AC staff and ask. the second time, we were told by airport staff, not by AC staff. How about a little compassion?

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Bill Clapperton on Dec 20, 2019 at 3:43 am

Plain and simple! AIr Canada cannot be trusted and are useless with any reasonable follow-up. Fly alternates and enjoy piece of mind.

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jc on Dec 19, 2019 at 5:20 pm

-13C and Air Canada is afraid to land. They might just as well take the rest of the winter off, as the worst weather is incoming. In fact, do we even need Air Canada? Bring in West Jet along with Air North and we'll be just fine. Air Canada is like the Liberal parties, all talk - no action.

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Tater on Dec 19, 2019 at 2:00 pm

Hey, Fly Often, Air North takes NO risks. The rule book they and A.C. operate by is the same. And about the losing an engine, the plane returned and landed safely.

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Pilot on Dec 19, 2019 at 1:10 pm

Hey Hello FLY OFTEN.
As an Air North pilot, let me assure you that we DO NOT take risks. Period. Our aircraft have capabilities of landing at lower minimums than the Air Canada A320’s

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Yukoner71 on Dec 19, 2019 at 12:09 pm

I cancelled my Aeroplan account after my latest and last Transatlantic Sc—-job at the hands of Air Canada and have never been happier. It’s amazing how Air Canada has the ability to totally ruin an entire trip and completely stress their customers out time after time and couldn’t care less about it. Haven’t flown Air Canada for a few years now, especially if when flying internationally you can do so much better than AC. Nothing makes me happier now than walking past an Air Canada check in counter knowing I don’t have to deal with them anymore.

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Groucho d'North on Dec 19, 2019 at 10:42 am

Air North aircraft are equipped with GPS apparatus whereas Air Canada's planes are not. Air North knows the environment in which they fly and are well prepared. Air Canada's management fails by not putting the correctly equipped aircraft on the routes that may experience weather concerns. AND they lose your luggage better than any other carrier. Air Joe is the best way to go.

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martin on Dec 19, 2019 at 10:21 am

Oh, c'mon! if you are not prepared to these inconveniences, you better travel some other way. "suffered traumatic reroutes"?. Several years ago, I started at 8 PM (1 AM Yk time) of the day a 11 hrs AC flight from the South to Tor (arriving 6AM); we got there late, so I lost my connection to Vcr. The rescheduled later that morning, arriving at Vcr mid-afternoon. AC only had one late flight to Whse and I was on it. It was snowing that Dec night and the pilot warned us that he might not be able to land. As he was descending, he accelerated, turned around and we went back to Vcr; arriving at 1AM, they put us in a hotel (2AM) and I had to wake up at 5 AM to catch the 7AM flight to Whse next day. In real time, it took me 49 hrs to get home, since I set foot in the starting airport. No- complaint here and suffered no "suffered traumatic reroutes" . I guess we are not all the same.

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Nate on Dec 19, 2019 at 9:48 am

Hi Wes, I'm the guy from Juneau quoted in the paper.
Weather in the Yukon vs Southeast has a lot in common. Skagway, Haines, and Dawson City can go days without a flight due to weather. Even Juneau, with 14 flights a day, sometimes 1 or 2 will find a 'hole' and make it in.

In Juneau, you have significantly higher mountains much closer to our airport, and you can't even do a "straight in" approach due to the mountains, it requires significant training, upgrades, and specialized approaches (RNP). Wind sheer is also a major deal in Juneau since you fly up/down the Gastineau Channel with 3000' peaks on both sides of your plane. Both plane & pilots have to be certified to land in Juneau. Air North has some of these, but not quite as intense, which is why their "minimums" are lower than Air Canada.

My point is, when you live here long enough, you learn to be flexible. I always fly with my passport, keep a wifi account for the plane, and just go with it.

Our "adventure" to Anchorage was interesting, but I made the most of it. Saw a few friends, went shopping (Anchorage has NO sales tax!), and tried to not be upset at Air Canada. I've spent many nights in Ketchikan and Anchorage when Alaska or Delta couldn't land in Juneau, and I've now been on 2 Air Canada flights that diverted.

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Dennis on Dec 19, 2019 at 8:08 am

After all these years these passengers hopefully will now know to avoid Air Canada, & West Jet is no better. I travel monthly on Air North, the only problem is it's always full, have to buy tickets very much in advance.

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Bandit on Dec 19, 2019 at 8:08 am

@Anie
FYI, I won't address the Code of Conduct surrounding collecting Airmiles Rewards as an employee, however you can use your Airmiles Rewards on Air North, I have numerous times.

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Poor handling by Air Canada, but - on Dec 19, 2019 at 7:39 am

Inconvenient, disappointing, stressful for sure - But 'traumatic' might be a bit of an exaggeration. We've been spoiled a bit by Air North's service, as its planes and staff are geared for northern flying, and now a delay like this makes headlines. For anyone who's lived and traveled here for a while, delays happen (and I'm not trying to say Air Canada shouldn't be on the hook here). But ALWAYS be prepared for a change of plans (medications, papers and a change of clothes in your carry-on) no matter where you're flying from/to this time of year.

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Matthew on Dec 19, 2019 at 6:59 am

Air Canada.. been a horrible airline for years now.. with all the "traumatic" re routes I'm sure I smell some pathetic lawsuits coming.. all want money for nothing.. hence the national mess were in..

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Simple Economics on Dec 19, 2019 at 6:38 am

AC simply don’t have the wherewithal to handle adaptation to northern flying conditions. Certainly not in a way that puts them in a position to compete with Air North and other localized carriers. If it were a level playing field they would have been driven out of business on standard grounds of perfect or imperfect competition.

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Pascal Belanger on Dec 18, 2019 at 10:08 pm

I would like to add to this post as that I was on this flight. The flight attendants did a fantastic job dealing with the information that was given to them as they were also in the dark as much as we were! They had to deal with an abusive passenger and conducted themselves in a very professional manner. This post is blowing the situation out of peroration.

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MItch on Dec 18, 2019 at 9:20 pm

It is time our government step in and tell Air Canada that if they are to fly into Northern communities, they must use a plane that is equipped with the technology to safely land at our airports. We never had these problems when they used the 737 planes but now they use smaller planes and can't land here. Time to pressure them to clean up their act.

Also, they should have to pay for the delay. Like others said, if Air North can land, it was not a weather issue. And I was here, we did not get that much snow over last week.

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Gringo on Dec 18, 2019 at 9:02 pm

Joan...you are 100% correct, Air Canada is failing Northern service because they will not invest in the avionics required to fly is such weather. Not sure why they would risk that out given the amount of money and headaches it's costing.

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Fly often on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:45 pm

All this ra-ra Air North, the same airline that had an emergency landing on one engine this week.
Air Canada pilots are making safe decisions, have strict policies and a budget that allows them to absorb the cost of flying back to Van or Anchorage.

Air North pilots are taking more risks landing, less policies and smaller budget that makes return trips very expensive for the small company. Anyone who thinks flying back/or not is anything other than a financial decision "has their head in the clouds".

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Charlie's Aunt on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:39 pm

So AC's flying culvert couldn't land but AN's 737 could? Something wrong with that scenario. I have never had a major problem with AC but only flew to Kelowna with them recently because AN's travel days didn't fit my schedule. AC did annoy me however; I traveled with 2 pieces of carry on and decided to donate the $30 + tax to check one on way home. At the boarding gate AC announced they would check any carry on FOC if people volunteered to do that. Was I reimbursed? - not a chance. Lesson learned.

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Resident on Dec 18, 2019 at 7:52 pm

Air Canada doesn't fly planes cleared for the weather and doesn't fly with pilots cleared for the conditions. Air North pilots have clearance to land in low visibility/ice fog in planes that can handle it. Air Canada will happily take off and roll the dice to see if they'll be landing that day.

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David on Dec 18, 2019 at 7:32 pm

Yet another reason to fly Air North

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Just fly the home based airline. No issues. on Dec 18, 2019 at 5:31 pm

Two words: Air North.

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jc on Dec 18, 2019 at 5:14 pm

Air Canada screwed me in 2003. I haven't flown Air Canada since.

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joan on Dec 18, 2019 at 4:48 pm

It's obvious Air Canada is either using planes that are not suited for the North or their pilots are not trained in Northern conditions. Either way, passengers should have been told of these potential " delays" and diversions prior to flights. It's not a "weather thing", it's an airline flying in an area without proper machines and/or staff. If it was a " weather thing" Air North would have also been grounded.

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Wes on Dec 18, 2019 at 4:21 pm

“When you live in the Yukon and southeast Alaska, you’re prepared,” Vallier said. “Last night was definitely one of the more challenging flights.”
The difference between the WX in Whitehorse and Juneau is literally night and day.

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Anie on Dec 18, 2019 at 4:04 pm

Every Yukoner knows that Air North flies when Air Canada doesn't. But people want to use those air miles (most of them acquired when their employer paid for a flight) and they want the cheapest flight. So it's hard to work up any sympathy. For more than a decade, we've flown only Air North.

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Tater on Dec 18, 2019 at 3:43 pm

Air Canada's motto is we're not happy til your not happy!

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There's a simple solution on Dec 18, 2019 at 3:42 pm

Has there been a single weather cancellation by Air North during these days? Not that I am aware of!

Also, I know that they cancelled their 6 a.m. flight to Vancouver on Saturday this week as well. Our worker showed up at 4 a.m. and was told, "Flight's cancelled." Just like that. No big deal! You woke up at 3 a.m. to get here but we couldn't be bothered to send a plane up. They said it had been canceled since the previous day. He asked why they didn't send an email. They said, "You should have checked our website."

His flight was now 5:40 pm on Saturday, rather than 6 a.m. Which meant he missed his connecting flight. He sat in the Vancouver airport from 8:15 pm Saturday, until about 2:30 a.m. Sunday morning, at which time his next flight left. That flight was on time, no issues.

There is a SERIOUS problem with Air Canada's service to Whitehorse. They have not changed in this regard for years and years. I don't even feel sorry for people anymore. Do not fly Air Canada in and out of Whitehorse! And tell all your friends, family, and customers. If you want to fly on a flight that is not cancelled, do not want to get bumped off the plane due to over booking, want the flight to be on time, and want your luggage to show up, Fly Air North. It's that simple.

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Politico on Dec 18, 2019 at 2:57 pm

$7 for breakfast and $15 for dinner! What century is Air Canada living in.

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