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RCMP investigating altercation at hockey game

An altercation between an adult and a bantam hockey player Tuesday night is under investigation by the RCMP and Whitehorse Minor Hockey Association (WMHA).

By Marcel Vander Wier on December 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm

An altercation between an adult and a bantam hockey player Tuesday night is under investigation by the RCMP and Whitehorse Minor Hockey Association (WMHA).

The incident occurred Tuesday night in the third period of a game between the Great Canadian Dollar Store and the Peewee A Mustangs at Takhini Arena. The two teams compete in the bantam house league.

According to eyewitness accounts, an adult in the timekeeper box became involved in a skirmish with a Great Canadian Dollar Store player after the player and a Peewee A Mustangs player received matching unsportsmanlike conduct penalties in the third period.

The Peewee A Mustangs were leading 6-3 at the time. The game was called following the incident.Whitehorse RCMP received a telephone call following the incident and are investigating.

“The matter is still under investigation so there is no release of information at this time,” Const. Dean Hoogland told the Star this morning.

Hoogland said no charges have been laid, pending the outcome of the investigation.

“The incident was reported to police just after 10 p.m.,” he said.

WMHA president Carl Burgess confirmed that the incident is also before the association’s Policy and Discipline Committee.

“We’re following our due disciplinary process as per usual,” Burgess confirmed this morning.

“At this point, we’re making sure we have a clear understanding of what happened. Then once we’re confident in that, we decide the process for it, including any final actions.”

Burgess said the association takes incidents like this seriously.

“We have zero tolerance for abuse, whether it’s physical, verbal or otherwise,” he said.

“But we also have a disciplinary process that we use to make sure how we deal with that is fair and equitable ... I’m happy to say it’s the exception rather than the norm. Dealing with disciplinary action is never fun.”

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For the Love of the SPORT

Dec 13, 2013 at 10:51 am

If this is under investigation by the WMHA and RCMP, please let the public know how the ADULT’S actions have been dealt with by “the association”.  Please let us know the extent of the adult’s involvement. Please let us know who initiated the altercation? When there is an adult and child involved in the altercation, do you have any authority over the behaviour of the adult?

I am glad the RCMP have become involved. It is pathetic when an “adult” and child become involved in an altercation DURING A SPORTING EVENT where charges may be a result.  Absolutely pathetic.

 

Hockey parent

Dec 13, 2013 at 3:11 pm

Minor hockey in Whitehorse has a long history of bullying and troubling behaviour.  Not just on the ice, but in the stands, with refs and with board members and with coaches.  I have a kid playing and this may be the last year because of some of the stuff that is permitted to go on unchecked. Complaints are deflected or blame is redirected to the victim. 

While Mr Burgess says there is ‘zero tolerance’ for abuse the players and families never see, hear or feel the outcome of any decisions on discipline.  Invisible punishments serve as a deterrent to no one.  The cycle continues.

hockeybum

Dec 14, 2013 at 8:36 am

The Good Ol Hockey Game.
I bet this altercation happened because someone was getting in the way of an NHL dream.

Hockey Mom

Dec 14, 2013 at 7:07 pm

To Hockey Parent: I couldn’t have said it better myself!

Concerned Hockey Parent

Dec 16, 2013 at 2:19 am

This is disturbing on many fronts.  It’s very upsetting to many Board Members and Parents.

hmmm

Dec 16, 2013 at 8:49 am

I for one would never coach unless I had the authority to throw out parents and any other individual from the stands who harassed players of any age I was coaching. Adults need to get over it and realize they did not make the NHL and leave the kids alone to play a great sport. If you can’t do that then stay out of the areas!!!

Max Mack

Dec 16, 2013 at 3:22 pm

Interesting how posters automatically assume that the adult is too blame for the “skirmish”.

Curious

Dec 16, 2013 at 4:27 pm

From what I understand there were no certified referees on the ice, just a volunteer parent. 

I think the rules of Hockey BC and Hockey Canada are pretty clear about this in that the game should not have been allowed to proceed.  Had their been certified refs on the ice there is a very good chance things would not have boiled over as they did.

For the Love of the SPORT

Dec 17, 2013 at 11:48 am

Shame on adults who feel “powerful” being involved in an altercation with a child.
I am appalled that “the association” seemingly condones bullying tactics and actions of an adult’s behaviour towards a child. This is unacceptable - especially with all the talk of bullying in the news now. 
One province is instituting a mandatory hockey course for parents. New Brunswick introduced a mandatory Respect course for parents of hockey kids, joining Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador and Alberta.

It’s a sad irony that in this hockey-loving society of supposedly polite people, toxic hockey adults at a kids’ game are injecting poison into a child’s hockey game. Hockey… our national sport…. Gateway to rink bullies and just plain bullying overall.

Michael kearney

Dec 17, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Curious. I am sorry but your completely incorrect. According to the BC rules if certified referees are not available, there are specific and clear quidlines to follow. In this case these rules were followed in that the referees were selected from the team bench (assitant coach) and the WMHA Head Coach. Further, a game can proceed and still be sanctioned by BC Hockey if a player from each team is selected to do the officiating. For the record, there were certified refs arranged for this game but all were unable to do the game at the last minute due to personal reasons. These rules can easily be found on the BC hockey website and I can confirm that this game followed them.

Nope

Dec 17, 2013 at 4:58 pm

Max Mack said:
Interesting how posters automatically assume that the adult is to blame for the “skirmish”.

Not a single post preceding yours says any such thing.

For the Love of the SPORT

Dec 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm

There are facts as a first hand witness.
1. The altercation was between an adult in his thirties and a 14 year old. Unless 14 is the new “legal” age - he is still deemed a child. ANY adult that gets into an altercation with a child is either (mentally) a child him/herself, a poor sport, a sore loser or a bully.
2. Because Whitehorse is SO small… are there any children of WMHA members that would have been on the opposing team? Just a question I am throwing out there.
3. Were the referees for this game… actual refs or were they “fill ins” for referees that did not show - which does happen from time to time.
4. In the WMHA book of “code and conduct, what does it say about one player uttering F-you to an opposing player when the teams “shake hands” at the end of a game.
5. What has this episode taught the adult? Likely nothing. What has this episode taught the child? Quite a bit, I would say - mostly about “fairness” in the world and how it lacks unless “you know someone”. There is nothing fair about that.

It is a shame when an adult’s actions could possibly distort this young player’s attitude toward the whole “sport”. Despicable.

Just a Parent

Dec 18, 2013 at 3:30 pm

For the love of the SPORT. You seem very invested in this issue and your concerns are valid but I am not seeing anything constructive in your comments other than to bash the adult and WMHA. The facts are being looked at and as a parent I hope that they result in a fair outcome to all parties involved. From my perspective there is no reason an adult should have had a physical confrontation with a youth. That has to be grounds for some actions by WMHA and possibly the RCMP.  WMHA doesn’t have much authority over an adult other than to have them removed from the rink and prevented from doing any further time keeping. WMHA does have the authority to suspend a player for their actions if those actions breached the code of conduct. I expect that this should be the outcome in this case.
I am not sure where people get off blaming WMHA as having to take responsibility for the actions of a player or the parent. It is their actions that are in question. Your comment about a player uttering the F’word on this ice is also a breach of the code of conduct. I encourage anyone that has heard it to come forward and raise a complaint. How else can it be dealt with otherwise?
People need to take responsibility for their actions and WMHA has to take the time to enforce their code of conduct on all the players, parents, coaches and officials. If a discipline process is taking place, it needs to be communicated publicly so the people posting on a newspaper site can see the facts and the outcomes

Holy Sh*t

Dec 18, 2013 at 4:46 pm

@For the Love of the Sport - If you were a first hand witness, perhaps you care to share with everyone just how the “kid/child” was acting…. instead of demeaning the adult in this situation by saying that they are “(mentally) a child him/herself, a poor sport, a sore loser or a bully”... pretty sure you posting comments online referring to them as such is not ok…
I would like to hope that the kid involved has learnt a lesson from all of this… perhaps he has learnt that it isn’t ok for him to curse and swear and go into a blackout type rage against anyone, whether it’s other kids or adults! Considering no one seems to know the truth about this situation and the ones that “supposedly” do don’t care to share truthfully, everyone should just leave this alone.
The cops did their investigations and found no grounds to lay charges against anyone so quit demeaning the adult that was involved when all they were doing was protecting themselves as well as other kids and adults that were around…

For the Love of the SPORT

Dec 18, 2013 at 6:11 pm

Well Holy Sh*t and “just” a parent… where did you get the detailed information you wrote about? Well… Whitehorse…. there you have it…. Pretty sure it was written by one of their “board members”.  OH…. btw… there is no such word as learnt.

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