‘It’s a continual lack of planning’: NDP critic

Not at all surprising for a poorly planned, overly complicated, bad design.  Many local contractors refused to bid because of the bad design.

No doubt we’ll end up with another fiasco like the the two hospitals now in the news. 

Same underlying problem: poorly planned, overly complicated, bad design.

Lowest bid = cutting corners, crappy materials, shipped in $10 hour workers, and the task wasn’t seriously taken.

Yes, sometimes the lowest bid works but most of the time, you get what you pay for and you are stuck with a crappy building with doubled the maintenance costs. But hey, thats GDP growth for you and if the GDP is happy, everything is FINE AND DANDY.

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‘It’s a continual lack of planning’: NDP critic

This is funny to me, why?, because of the lack of planning and foresight in the NDP/Liberal parties explains why they have lost elections constantly. Failed planners vs people who planned things, hmmmmm, who are you going to choose?

If these so called experts put forward a report showing how the cost should be broken down then why is the government not comparing the prices against their base line to see where the costs are higher?

That Arn is a lack of evaluation and planning and I don’t care what politic colours you wear.

YTG was told they would save millions if they built the school on the field, then built the field over the old school. The response was no, because they wanted to preserve the old trades wing. Uh, what? New trades wing, and cheaper than the manhandled monster the intrepid engineers have clumsily assembled? Why would you ever say no to that!?

I’m almost certain the lowest bid was made possible because of a co-operative effort with local contractors on the part of EllisDon. Also, this project had addenda more voluminous than the actual tender. I’m certain that many contractors offered higher prices to guard their interests, and rightly so: their prices will likely be closer to the final price tag.

YTG was offered the option of building the school on top of the current field, but refused, for the reason (as I hear it) of preserving the old trades wing. This option would have saved millions, completely negated the gymnasium controversy, and spared us many of what will become costly changes, delays, and mistakes that come from building something new aside something occupied

It can’t be described as anything more than overwhelming incompetence.

Who was the mouth-breather that thought they’d save money by hanging onto the trades wing crunched up against the southern property line?

Had they built the school on the existing track this project would be halfway through completion with no costly interruption to the gym (which will now cost millions more) Then Kent needed to delay a year to ‘wrap his head around the project’ costing an additional 10+ million and what do we have to show for it?  A nice sign that says ‘Coming Soon’.

Idiots.

My comments generate NO replies just likes and dislikes. It seems hmmmmm in your lack of planning you failed to plan for it. Who else from the opposition is gonna jump on the “we don’t need hospitals” bandwagon.

“When the lowest bid comes in about 25 per cent over-budget, there is clearly a lack of communication somewhere, he said.” Yes, and the continued lack of communication to voters from the NDP/Liberal parties explain why they cannot win seats.

For myself, Arn, I don’t engage you because you ramble. Your habits of punctuation make it difficult to interpret what it is you are saying. If you don’t take the time to communicate clearly, it doesn’t seem worth it to spend the time needed to slog through your words. Furthermore, inside your words are hyperbole, divisive partisan politics, and inflammatory intentions. Perhaps people don’t require your brand of drama while discussing matters that affect them.

Sorry Jonathan, your perfect grammar ramble has no impact on the story. There is ZERO divisive partisan politics, that’s what you want to read, that’s not my fault for your politically divided brain. Now onto REAL discussion. Spend a little bit more and get at least 200 years out of the building, enough of these short-term life buildings that seem to be replaced in 50 years.

Arn, I also find your ramblings puzzling.  What I find amazing here is that no one at YTG learned from past mistakes trying to keep part of a building when building a new one.  The rec centre in Dawson is case #1, for some idiotic reason the powers that be decided to keep the frame so the ground couldn’t be prepared properly, voila, une grande white elephant.  #2 the fiasco in Watson Lake in keeping what was to be extended care? (can’t remember the exact title) and build the hospital around it, that involved many YP officials who benefited. I think FHC will be the big pink elephant.  Start over, build the school in the yard and then move in, presto, simple but don’t forget YP doesn’t do simple and effective—ever.

I was contacted by EllisDon regarding getting a bid I told them that though I had looked at the plans I was not interested in bidding it because I knew it would come in overbudget and would likely get cancelled…

Also of the three final bids EllisDon was the only one that I heard from.

The new school should be built on the field.  The Trades Wing can operate where it is without being attached to the school.
This will be another clusterfrack project like the jail, and the two new hospitals.