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A UNITED OPINION – An estimated 150 people flocked to the select committee of the legislaturesʼ meeting on hydraulic fracking Wednesday evening in Carcross. The method was unanimously panned. Photo by JANNIK SCHOU

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Peter Huber addresses the committee members. Photo by JANNIK SCHOU

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Elke Huber and Jannik Schou

‘The method of fracking is a crime against life’

Residents of the Southern Lakes voiced almost unanimous opposition to fracking in the Yukon Wednesday evening,

By Christopher Reynolds on September 25, 2014

Residents of the Southern Lakes voiced almost unanimous opposition to fracking in the Yukon Wednesday evening, coming out in droves to address a legislative committee at the Carcross community hall.

Elder Charlie James, a Carcross-Tagish First Nation (CTFN) executive council member and lifelong area resident, was one of 98 registered speakers.

“We need to think about our future generations,” James said in an interview today.

“Nobody’s talked that much about what our concerns are.”

The CTFN recently passed a resolution declaring their opposition to hydraulic fracturing and shale gas development within their traditional lands.

“I think Yukoners have spoken loud and clear that fracking is not what they want in our territory,” James said.

Elke Huber, a Tagish resident for nearly two decades, told the select committee that fracking is “immoral” and amounted to “ruthless exploitation” of the environment.

“Using the method of fracking is a crime against life because it consciously accepts that millions of litres of fresh and clean water will be turned into chemical waste and stored deep underground,” she said last night.

“There is no method to safely dispose of this wastewater. We would leave this toxic cocktail for our children and grandchildren.”

Hydraulic fracturing involves pumping pressurized water, sand and chemicals underground to release natural gas trapped within the shale rock.

The issue remains controversial around the country, with more than 174,000 wells already fracked in Alberta alone.

Southern Lakes residents organized a barbecue and served up grilled moose burgers outside the Carcross Community Club before the public hearing, which began at 5 p.m.

Carcross-area musician Lee Mennell played a rendition of his “123 What Are We Fracking For?” a riff on Country Joe’s classic 1967 protest song, “I-Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-to-Die Rag.”

Attendees joined in for the chorus, stomping their feet and clapping their hands to add a lighter note to the gathering.

Inside the hall, one woman refused to address the committee panel directly, turning around to face the assembly instead.

“I want to be respectful of my audience. I want them to see me,” she said.

The proceedings were standing room only for the first two hours.

“The people were lined up against the walls,” Huber noted.

The committee extended the hearing to accommodate the overwhelming community response, staying until 9 p.m.

“There were even young people there, which is something we haven’t seen that often yet,” Huber noted.

One CTFN citizen told the panel of politicians: “Even if you say yes, we say no to fracking.”

Jannik Schou, who lives along Deep Creek north of Whitehorse, attended the four-hour affair.

“It was quite incredible,” he said, remarking on the stream of nearly 100 speakers to and from the microphone last night.

“Every single one of them was voicing their opposition toward fracking.”

The Select Committee Regarding the Risks and Benefits of Hydraulic Fracturing will hold public hearings at 5 p.m. today and at 1 p.m. Saturday at the Kwanlin Dun Cultural Centre in Whitehorse.

The committee also met with community members in Haines Junction on Tuesday evening.

Formed in May 2013, the select committee is made up of six MLAs: chair Patti McLeod, Currie Dixon and Darius Elias from the Yukon Party; vice-chair Lois Moorcroft and Jim Tredger from the NDP; and Liberal Sandy Silver.

By the end of the week, the committee will have held hearings in 12 communities since June.

Since its formation, it has put out three progress reports, accessible online along with the hearings transcripts.

Fracking has proved one of the most controversial issues in local and global discussions of resources development, environmental integrity and climate change.

France and Bulgaria, which have the largest shale-gas reserves in Europe, have banned fracking.

Even popular culture icons like the Rolling Stones and Matt Damon have added their voices to the conversation.

The Stones’ 2012 single “Doom and Gloom” foresees a dire environmental destiny while The Promised Land, from the same year, focuses its dramatic lens on a natural gas company salesman in a small town.

Although documentaries like 2010’s Gasland have cast a shadow on the fracking industry, shale gas extracted from depths of thousands of feet has rarely been shown to contaminate drinking water drawn from depths of only hundreds of feet.

Instances of methane leaking into aquifers in regions where shale-gas drilling occurs is an ongoing concern.

Many also argue that fracking is a much cleaner process than coal mining due to shale gas extraction’s lower CO2 emissions.

However, incomplete burning can release methane into the atmosphere, which can trap up to 20 times more CO2.

Comments (23)

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Hold er there Partner on Oct 7, 2014 at 6:09 am

The most common stabilizer in commercial ice cream is guar bean powder, commonly known as guar gum.
Ice cream ingredient bought up by fracking industry.
I believe Fracking has now crossed the line. This Fracking is an affront to civilization. The following is an excerpt extracted from CBC website:
The trouble is that guar gum has become increasingly expensive, thanks to its use in the hydraulic fracturing or fracking industry. Fracking is an increasingly popular method for extracting oil and gas by pumping high-pressure fluids into shale or coal formations to fracture the rock, releasing the fossil fuels. The guar gum is used to thicken those fluids in order to make the process more efficient.

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redneck yt on Oct 4, 2014 at 8:39 am

What I don't get is that when everything is taken and there is no more gas then what do we do?? Perhaps the folks who think this is a great idea should go and get off the road and look at northern BC, its a grid of wells, what will the industry be when its done? Do we know the groundwater will be usable in 40-50 years?
All this gas is being sold for pennies as it's not needed now in the US, they are well ahead of us in destroying their water, where will they look for water? You guessed it, the north of Canada. And the pennies for the gas is going to China who own the gas. China has recently made a deal with Russia for lots of gas, hence the desperation on the part of the BC gov in getting the pipelines built. Our grandchildren will be facing a wasteland to live in, perhaps the folks who call the protesters idiots should get their own head out of their ---!

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Mark Smart on Oct 2, 2014 at 12:39 pm

@Rorex1983

My reference to the industrial revolution was an analogy of potential long lasting negative environmental impact. I did not mention that people died from the pollution during the IR and whales were used for their oil which I hope you can appreciate is a little barbaric- and it took more than a little while before the Thames River was cleaned up. Would you drink water from the Thames?

Fracking with proprietary chemicals and disrupted ground water cycles may take decades to clean up if it's even possible. Did you know that it's possible to use science to age water and some groundwater cycles move incredibly slowly. This is also true for what they refer to the "conveyor belt" that moves the deep and cold water around in the world's oceans.

My take away message is let's not mess it up (specifically groundwater) for a few companies to make a quick buck. And of course I do use many energy sources but prefer to develop these resources in a manner than causes no net loss to our precious groundwater or the environment.

Many people who strongly oppose those referred to as anti-fracters call them a variety of names. The name callers should travel to Faro. The former mine created jobs and prosperity for a limited amount of time and it has left a legacy of pollution. Let's not allow fracking in the Yukon to do the same.

Mark


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A lesson from my son on Sep 30, 2014 at 1:01 pm

I have my son attending university and one of his professors has studied the the effects of green house gases. What I found interesting is science is taking a different look at the whole issue of climate change and how to deal with. The questions are how does human activity contribute to the green house gases, was is natural or what is the evolution of the earth changing itself. The question now is what is the best solution to mitigate the problems not try to solve the problems. Mitigate the problem of green houses means going after the route effects of our society interest like driving cars. Cars represent 50% of societies problems. So how do you fix that?

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Rorex1983 on Sep 30, 2014 at 10:37 am

@ Mark Smart. "I think the benefits of fracking are like the benefits of the industrial revolution"

Lol. Yeah I forgot in the mind of environmentalists the industrial revolution was a bad thing. Well Smart (by the way that's an ironic name like the huge fat guy named Tiny) here is a look at the world without that dastardly industrial revolution. Slavery would certainly still exist, the average life span would be back to 30 years, women still wouldn't be allowed to vote, literacy would be almost non-existent, you can forget about democracy as we know it, etc. The list is endless and I think we can easily say you would not exist.

Your comment is the epitome of hypocrisy. The result of your thoughts about an article you were able to read because of the industrial revolution, with the spare time you have because of the industrial revolution, on a device the result of the industrial revolution.

Why am I not surprised that this is typical environmentalist thinking. What some would call idealistic is in reality straight up delusional.

Oh yeah Mark just thought you should know that all tap water is already the result of huge pumps filtering groundwater.

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Jingo on Sep 30, 2014 at 8:14 am

So we have Pro Frackers and we have Anti Frackers....let's put it to rest and bring in Nuclear Energy. It's is by far the cleanest energy out there. Nuclear scare a lot of people but truth is it's the most efficcient. Why not look into it?

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Poll on facking on Sep 28, 2014 at 9:33 pm

According to the response in this piece most people do not agreed with the anti frack group who wants to stop fracking or any development in the Yukon. I don't understand why the Yukon has stopped and let nay-attitudes take over what is real and important to the Yukon. According to the anti development groups, nothing would be permitted mining, tourism, fishing, hunting, cutting trees, or just plain living.

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Mark Smart on Sep 28, 2014 at 11:44 am

I think the benefits of fracking are like the benefits of the industrial revolution.

Fracking has provided gas but over time a major environmental cleanup will be required and it may not actually be possible to do so. Will there be hugh pumps filtering groundwater across the country?

Contaminating ground water is a crime against many living things. To allow this to happen shows that an elite group of companies have some inherent right over taxpayers and environmental legislation.

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north_of_60 on Sep 27, 2014 at 6:42 pm

@JJ "I can not find one single reference anywhere that says fracking is a good idea."

That's like saying "I can not find one single reference anywhere that says air travel is a good idea." Because you're only looking at the crashes. I have no doubt that you can't if you're only looking for answers you agree with.

Hydraulic fracturing has been used as a normal petroleum well completion practice since the late 40s, so it would appear you're not looking in the right places.

Nearly every petroleum based product you use every day came from a fracked well, and you still cannot find one single reference anywhere that says fracking is a good idea? That appears to be willful blindness.

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Decision in Nova Scotia on Sep 27, 2014 at 3:28 pm

I am from Nova Scotia and have communicated with Dr. Wheeler who headed up the process on the subject of fracking. I have also received a copy of the Ministers of Natural Resources statements and it is very clear what the direction the province is taking on the subject. The problem I'm having is 98% of the information that is been put out by the anti fracking is not based in science or truth. As the Wilderness Association talked about a combination of wind, solar, hydro and biomass should be the Yukon energy sources. The things that has to be assessed is health affects on humans, second the reliability and third is the cost of each energy sources. Wind and solar has harmful affects on human health and wind is been stopped because the affects. Second, the reliability of wind is at best 40%. The only way to raise the reliability of wind is by building a group of wind farms in different places hoping one will produce energy. The problem with this is the cost for an average house in the Yukon well go from $150 to $500 per month. Also wind affects wildlife negatively. Solar is not reliability in the winter at all and at the max 40% in the summer. Hydro has 98% reliability. Natural gas has 100% reliability. Biomass put a lot of CO2 just other fuels that are carbon based. I wish groups that are concerned about the environment would just retain a balanced and objective approach. People in the know will never want to get involved with a process like this because it is not realistic.

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June Jackson on Sep 27, 2014 at 10:05 am

True North: (a misnomer to be sure)
You need to do your research, please see:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/1233818-nova-scotia-to-ban-fracking
and
http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking/faq/water-used

There are unfortunately many people who think, if you don't agree with them, then you must be wrong, you don't know what you are talking about..
I can not find one single reference anywhere that says fracking is a good idea. I find a lot of references with pro's and cons', benefits and dangers, but no one says its good. Other respondents here say."you don't want fracking, so you don't know what you are talking about"..they are also referring to the 3,111,000 people who came up when I put a search on "ban fracking". As oppossed to the no one, 0 who came up positively stating "Fracking is good for us".
I will listen.. but when people post as fact, they should back it up with some URL's or Scientific Journals that support what they are saying. With out that, you are merely posting an opinion.

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Chemicals Use in Fracking on Sep 27, 2014 at 9:53 am

The types of chemicals used in fracking are the same we use in our homes but a lot less of them. The Yukon is so full of anti-development people they will say anything to stop development. In 2016 health transfers to the provinces and territories from Canada will be capped at 6%. This will mean the Yukon is going to have to figure out how to make up the funding requirements for health. Which has increased by 8 to 10% a year. Especially older people. Think ahead on what you are doing. The NDP are so against any kind of development. People, I say it again, if you like your life style and standard of living you know who not to vote for.

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north_of_60 on Sep 26, 2014 at 6:44 pm

Fracking is the latest dead horse to be whipped by the same folks who tried to make us believe that humans caused global warming and climate change.
Now that GlobalWarmingClimateChange has been thoroughly debunked by science, these NIMBYs need another lost cause to get behind.

If they really cared about the Yukon they would be working to create the most rigorous petroleum development regulations in the world and getting the aboriginal community involved with stringent enforcement, like the government did with Conservation Officers. Instead their antics have marginalized the group as hypocritical NIMBY clowns, not to be taken seriously by anyone but other nutters.

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True facts about natural gas development on Sep 26, 2014 at 1:44 pm

Nova Scotia did not ban fracking but banned from going ahead with it at this time until more science can be determined. There is so much facts being put out by people who do not have any knowledge of the subject and how it can go ahead or be used. Nova Scotia is the latest exporting of natural gas on the east coast. Nova Scotia is not against natural gas development. It is so disappointing to watch people go to the committee and make statements that are not found in fact or evidence.
The big piece they all talk about is what it does to the water and how much water is used. Fracking is already going past using water. The amount of used per well is less then one house would use in a year.

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Captain Obvious on Sep 26, 2014 at 12:06 pm

I wonder if they used propane to grill those moose burgers... because you do realize that propane is a natural gas primarily harvested using fracking. And the heating oil many of them burn is extracted in dirtier manners than fracking (see: tar sands).

Education is key- there are proper ways of harvesting our resources. We need to do it cleanly, and shouldn't have blanket decisions made by the opinionated uninformed.

Hope the moose burgers were nummy!

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June Jackson on Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 am

I have posted URL's and comments many times on how dangerous fracking is for the earth..if it's bad for the earth, it's bad for humanity.

The governments in Canada are facing a real financial crisis. People are truly ready for a physical revolt. They are tired of writing letters complaining about high taxation, tired of not being able to have a home, only to have a report come out that says Canadians pay more in taxes than the necessities of life. Governments know this, and they are desperate for more money without directly raising taxes again. 1.8 million Canadians left the country last year, many, our brightest and best.. The government is doing its best to replace them.. So, what has this got to do with fracking? fracking is money. Oil companies have more money than God and they're willing to give huge chunks of it to our governments. Our governments see this as a way to keep their own gold plated lifestyles, and marginally improve the situation of the common man. The common man seems to know one thing the government ignores.. there is a price to be paid for fracking.. and they know who is going to pay it.

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June Jackson on Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 am

I have posted URL's and comments many time on how dangerous fracking is for the earth..if it's bad for the earth, it's bad for humanity.

The governments in Canada are facing a real financial crisis. People are truly ready for a physical revolt. They are tired of writing letters complaining about high taxation, tired of not being able to have a home, only to have a report come out that says Canadians pay more in taxes than the necessities of life. Governments know this, and they are desperate for more money without directly raising taxes again. 1.8 million Canadians left the country last year, many, our brightest and best.. The government is doing its best to replace them.. So, what has this got to do with fracking? Fracking is money. Oil companies have more money than God and they're willing to give huge chunks of it to our governments. Our governments see this as a way to keep their own gold plated lifestyles, and marginally improve the situation of the common man. The common man seems to know one thing the government ignores.. there is a price to be paid for fracking.. and they know who is going to pay it.

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Louise Bedard on Sep 25, 2014 at 10:23 pm

I do not want to see any fracking in the Yukon.

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Tom Lymbery on Sep 25, 2014 at 8:27 pm

Fracking does not have to be done with water. Calgary company GasFrac Energy Services has developed a shale fracking system that uses liquid propane under pressure instead of water. Instead of water possibly being polluted, the liquid propane vaporizes and mixes with the natural gas released by the process.

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June Jackson on Sep 25, 2014 at 8:17 pm

I have written many times about fracking..and yes, I have a submission in to the commission.. but, just keep protesting, because there is even a public hearing on it tells me the government isn't listening and still has plans to sell the Yukon off to the mega oil and gas industries. Science is now finding that gas is worse for the environment than coal..another reason ban fracking.

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north_of_60 on Sep 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm

The anti-frackers love to lecture us on how evil it is, though when asked, most don't know very much about it, but their social media friends say it's bad, so they do too. Anti-fracking defines who they are and makes them acceptable in their social milieu. They can't change their views on fracking, and they don't welcome any new data that challenges their preconceived notions.

It's ironic that they continue to consume the products and services that wouldn't exist without fracked petroleum wells. They use plastics, ride the transit, drive vehicles, ride airplanes, heat their houses and hot water... the list is endless; all derived from fracking to some extent.

They continue to consume products from countries that emit the greatest amount of toxic pollution and those evil GreenHouse Gasses they believe are causing catastrophic GlobalWarmingClimateChange. Like with fracking, they're not sure about the details, but their facebook friends say it's bad, so they do too.

The countries they like to buy stuff from contribute half of the world's GHGs that they're so concerned about. However the oilsands operations in the wilderness of Northern Canda is evil because it contributes 0.05% of the world's GHGs, not 50%. The countries that dump half the worlds GHGs are OK because they make their i-phones, their solar collectors, their windmills, and all that fabulously disposable crap they love to shop for.

There is a term for the condition when someone's actions are inconsistent with their stated beliefs; it's called hypocrisy.

In common terms it's called NIMBYism, ie. "it's tacitly OK, but Not In My Back Yard. You go frack somewhere else, not here".

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ralpH on Sep 25, 2014 at 3:32 pm

Probably already drafting a application process for fracking permits. Smoke and Screens.

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Francias Pillman on Sep 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm

Let's be honest here. I'm tired of hearing the same old "will someone please think of the children". Today's society only cares about themselves. So save the BS.

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