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Ten sites shortlisted for major hydro dam

Ten general sites involving 16 rough proposals have been shortlisted as candidates for the Yukon’s next major hydro dam.

By Chuck Tobin on January 29, 2015

Ten general sites involving 16 rough proposals have been shortlisted as candidates for the Yukon’s next major hydro dam.

The shortlist was released online Wednesday afternoon.

The Next Generation Hydro team has been tasked with providing the Yukon Development Corp. with the information it needs before recommending one or more sites to the territorial cabinet by the end of the year.

The Crown corporation has been instructed by the cabinet to consider the environmental, social and economic impacts, along with the territory’s future energy needs and supply options.

Each of the 16 proposals involves flooding stretches of wilderness in the 10 general areas.

A proposal for one of the smaller hydro facilities at Frances Lake off the Robert Campbell Highway calls for flooding 165 square kilometres, and raising the lake level by 23 metres.

A larger facility at the same site – one of the 16 options – calls for flooding 235 square kilometres and raising the level of Frances Lake by 38 metres.

Another option for the Pelly River near Pelly Crossing would flood 170 square kilometres, but would create twice the hydro generating capacity of the Whitehorse Rapids Dam.

During a technical briefing Wednesday, members of the Next Generation technical team emphasized nothing is cast in stone, that any of the 16 options could morph into something much different than it appears now.

It all comes down to matching the territory’s future energy needs with one of the 16 options or different variations of those options, considering social, environmental and financial costs, they explained.

In May 2013, Premier Darrell Pasloski and his territorial cabinet instructed the publicly owned development corporation, Yukon Energy’s parent company, to undertake the Next Generation Hydro project. The cabinet provided the corporation with $2 million to do the work.

The first two-day workshop was held in November and the second two-day workshop began this morning at the Westmark Whitehorse Hotel. A public meeting to discuss the material gathered so far is scheduled for 7:00 this evening at the Westmark.

Brad Cathers, the newly appointed minister for the development corporation and the Yukon Energy, opened the workshop this morning with welcoming remarks.

“This project is a priority for the Yukon government,” Cathers told representatives of First Nations, the business community and different organizations such as the Yukon Conservation Society.

“The Next Generation Hydro project is an important step in meeting Yukon’s energy needs.”

The focus of the workshop today was a technical paper regarding rising demand in the next 20 to 50 years based on population growth and additional industrial needs.

One scenario has demand growing by 25 per cent in the next 20 years.

It’s been made clear in past presentations and discussions that Yukon Energy is still responsible for meeting short-term growth with more modest generating options.

The Next Generation project is mandated to recommend larger, long-term solutions.

Technical team leader Peter Helland of Midgard Consulting explained during Wednesday’s briefing that all hydro projects have impacts, just as the 16 options do.

It’s a matter of balancing and mitigating those impacts while providing for future demand, he said.

“So we are basically trying to get a sense of ‘is the glove the right size?’”

Helland emphasized some of the material used to shortlist the 16 options is old and needs to be brought up to date by the project team using the science available today in what is strictly a desktop exercise that does not include field research.

Obtaining support from the general public and First Nations is of critical importance, it was said Wednesday.

All 16 options occur in one of four traditional territories: the Kaska First Nations of southeast Yukon, the Selkirk First Nation, the Teslin Tlingit Council and Mayo’s First Nation of Nacho Nyak Dun.

Under the existing schedule, the Next Generation team is to wrap the technical material and community input into a viability study for the development corporation’s board of directors to consider this fall.

Before the end of this year, the board is to recommend one or more proposals for the Yukon government to go forward with.

Six of the hydro dam options are along the Pelly River watershed, another six are inside the Liard River and Frances Lake watershed, three are along the Stewart River and one dam proposal is on the Teslin River.

The Teslin River dam option in its current form would provide 55 megawatts of new generation, or 15 more megawatts than the total hydro generating capacity at the Whitehorse Rapids Dam.

Located more than 90 kilometres downriver from Johnson’s Crossing, the Teslin option would flood a total of 55 square kilometres upstream, over a distance of 75 kilometres.

The largest of the current options, a 300-megawatt facility at Fraser Falls on the Upper Stewart River, would flood 570 square kilometres.

Using older and newer cost estimates, the price tag for each of the 16 options ranges from several hundred million dollars to well over $2 billion.

Also to be taken into consideration by the Next Generation team is the distance to the existing grid and the cost of the transmission line that would be required.

Comments (20)

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Watsonlaker on Feb 3, 2015 at 2:50 pm

What about the people on the Francis River below Francis Lake? Many of us have homes not just cabins on the Francis River. What is the impact below the dam location? We depend on the river for hunting, fishing and trapping in the winter.

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Aishihik Dam is not harming anything and they have added a third wheel on Feb 1, 2015 at 9:39 am

Before criticizing, sometime think about what its means to yourself and the Yukon. I lived by four dams and they were better for fish, birds and wildlife. This is change for the better. Give it time so you can understand and see how it works. The First Nations can be a partner in the projects like NFL and Quebec. Everyone knows fossil fuels has to be stopped and hydro is the best solution.

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Sally Wright on Jan 31, 2015 at 9:24 pm

I attended both the workshops and public meeting for this particular energy planning exercise. Did I see you there North of 60?
There is a high level of anxiety at these meetings because people simply don't trust the decision makers with such important work. We are looking at All our children's future here and getting pretty worried that we've screwed it up for all time.
So there is fear. And then there is ignorance; about the environment, the economy and our community. When it comes to energy, somehow we all seem to go to pieces, just when we need to be at our most aware.
We are not going back to the stone-ages on our journey away from fossil fuel. The future of hydro in the north is pumped-storage, run-of-the river using pipes and culverts and Oh I love that idea of rebuilding the bridges that actually produce electricity from their posts.
The golden rule with hydro is to make sure the salmon aren't hindered and hurt and the habitat is preserved and the design innovation is tremendous. No dams. The innovation are coming fast.
This is type of meeting is very important and I was very impressed how the First Nations came and fully participated in the information gathering.
I also appreciated being heard and the biggest projects that are the most destructive Fraser Falls on the Stewart and Granite Canyon on the Pelly have been both dropped from the list. This will save much grief and uncertainty. I am tired of fighting.
I was really impressed with the intelligent questions and passionate care Yukon people have for this important issue. Everyone has learned a lot about energy since the Whitehorse Trough Awakening in February 2012.

My one greatest concern is the total lack of credible science behind this project's energy forecasts. There seems to be no consideration for a smart grid, the development of wind energy storage to meet the heating requirements and no peak load shifting. Also there seemed to be no acknowledgment of how poorly suited hydro is in our cold winters, when we need heat most.
When exploring the opportunities of renewable energy you have to be aware of seasonal energy uses. How are we to plan for the future when our existing grid is so archaic. Big Oil has spent many years trying to make money at electrical generation, and it has been lock step with big hydro.

I was glad to see the planning team has found a reasonable solution for energy planning for mines, there appears to be someone paying attention to the problems of the Faro Mine cleanup. Hopefully that also translates into a reality check about the ridiculous size of Casino, this is one of the stupidest mine ideas I have heard of my 30 years in the Yukon.

Happily, the people of Mayo brought news of their experiences with the Mayo B project to the workshop. This is vital information about the very real impact of Hydro, Mayo B is not going well. Let us hope that the Yukon Development Board of directors listened and will think differently when they read the financial updates on the $100 million debt they have from Mayo B.
Maybe the much needed Audit and forensic investigation of Mayo B and the Harper Green Infrastructure fund will be speeded up.

Good workshop, learned a lot and met a lot of good people who care.

Sally Wright

ps - The only river system on the short list that does not have salmon is the Frances River that is north of Watson Lake. It would be nice to get Watson off of diesel. The affected First Nations could build, own and run the project, and invest in a fleet of electric cars and... the possibilities are really exciting.

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north_of_60 on Jan 31, 2015 at 1:34 pm

One hydro option is to develop hundreds of megawatts to meet future mine requirements and sell the surplus to Alaska so they can burn less coal.

Another hydro option is to develop tens of megawatts as required to meet immediate and short term needs.

Both options would require massive additional funding from the taxpayers of Canada, over and above the Billion or so they already spend each year to run the territorial governments.

A third option would be to assist private enterprise in developing hydro sites with less than 10 megawatts and install grid ties to hydro sites near Atlin BC and Skagway AK.

This option is likely the easiest and most cost effective, with much less environmental damage.

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Rhonda Rosie on Jan 30, 2015 at 8:16 pm

Here we go again. I've lived along and near Frances Lake since 1970, and dammimg the river and flooding the area around the lake was a threat even way back then and before. At least now the government will have to contend with the opposition from those of us who love this area, and in particular the Kaska FN, who have used Frances Lake for generation after generation, and many of their ancestors are buried in this area. Frances Lake also has a place in history as the site of Fort Frances, as well as a Hudson Bay Post into the 1940s. But more than that, it is an area of unparalleled beauty, with lovely vistas and sandy beaches, and is a favourite fishing and hunting lake for many Yukoners. And it's home to a number of people who have deep roots here. To even think of damming Frances Lake is insanity. I hope the Yukon government has the brains to not waste taxpayers' money on even thinking about damming it. (But I doubt it.)

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fed up Yukoner on Jan 30, 2015 at 6:38 pm

Why all of a sudden do we not have enough power? Bellkeno is closed and Minto isn't using full power yet we need more, to assume Victoria Gold will go ahead and we need to "add to the infrastructure" ready to give away the power they may need. Why can't lakes on existing dams be dredged deeper to give more power and add more efficient turbines. It seems that looking at other options is just not gonna happen. I think the dam at Mayo is a white elephant now after the $100 million 5-10 megawatt addition, haven't seen the diesels burn so much as this winter in Dawson since we had nothing but diesel and since we have been connected to the Whse grid. When there is a problem with the dam there we need to burn diesel here--is Mayo not able to at least keep wee little Dawson running? Look at other northern countries and actually do some research and do something out of the box for the first time ever. And I don't really believe Atco's (not gonna add the Yukon Energy part, don't think we own it anymore either) claim on the costs of running the diesels during the dam freeze-up and I don't believe one word of the rosy numbers they give us on how much we will save with the LNG monstrosities.
The population of the Yukon in 20 years won't be much different than now, let the mines supply their own power and then we residents won't be paying for these transient businesses and heaven forbid we link up with BC, kiss the Yukon goodbye. Site C says it will supply 740,000 homes with power, umm- its called Fort McMurray and the tarsands. It will destroy one of the last farming valleys in the Peace Country. The Peace used to supply 80% of food locally, now its about 10%. We have to stop damming, mining and buildings subdivisions on our farmland, down the road we will have to provide for ourselves or perish.

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Casino Mine project Energy needs WC on Jan 30, 2015 at 12:49 pm

Casino mine is building their own energy supply, not from the public funds. If this mine goes ahead there will be a lot of growth in the Yukon which will require a domestic and local business energy supply. Having worked on energy as a economic development tool is great for the environment, for the economy, social economic benefits are high, like fishing, hunting and all wild life. It is especially good for birds that use the water like ducks. It creates more habitat for fish. Life changes every day and the Yukon is no different. Some people don't want change, that is their choice. Does anyone not want the COW dam? Everyone enjoys the social economic benefits of the COW dam.

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Yukon Partner in the World on Jan 30, 2015 at 12:38 pm

The Yukon has lots of economic potential and like anywhere else we need to be partner in the growth of the world or we will be left behind. The Yukon will have old people not making any common sense because the young people will not be able to come back and make a living. How much wealth has been created in the NFL hydro? Who is benefiting from the NFL hydro project? Millions of people will be using 100% green energy that is sustainable. The revenues will help all NFL peoples. People of Nova Scotia can move from burning coal or bunker to provide them energy and have green energy. More water helps the earth and the animals on it.

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Hector Renaud on Jan 30, 2015 at 12:05 pm

There is no need to flood any areas. By using the flow of the Yukon River, power generation can be placed inside the supports for bridges. Like in the Dawson area where a bridge to the west side would be useful. This would produce a double return for the investment and not destroy the land.

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who is this for? on Jan 30, 2015 at 9:43 am

The population of the Yukon is about the same as it was a hundred years ago. What changes does the government see that would require us to double our electrical supply?

This is more publicly funded infrastructure for the mining industry. Canada and the Yukon spends billions on hydro dams for mining (and probably oil and gas corporations in the near future), and corporations and the Chinese government walk away with enormous profits, leaving behind destruction and massive clean up bills.

The mines using the energy should be paying the Yukon public for the infrastructure provided for them. And I don't mean through their reduced electricity bills. The Chinese government is building their own infrastructure in Africa, and should be doing the same here. It is sad that Canada has come to this.

Maybe we should be hanging on to our resources until Canadians have the money to develop them, and Canadian workers are ready to take the jobs, but I am pretty sure Harper made sure that won't happen through the FIPA deal he just signed with China with no debate and no public input.

Open your eyes to the big picture.

Whatever 'public consultation' goes on, I am sure the Yukon Party, and probably the other parties as well, will studiously avoid illuminating and discussing these uncomfortable questions about what we are doing, and why, and for whom.

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Sandy Helland on Jan 30, 2015 at 9:05 am

Quote, "... distance to the existing grid and the cost of the transmission line that would be required."
Please be reminded that hydro lines being knocked out is a popular "reason" for frequent power outages throughout Yukon Territory.

Your "dam direction" is like throwing good money after bad. Repeating the past.

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Sandy Helland on Jan 30, 2015 at 8:54 am

Without affordable rents in the city, people will move away from Whitehorse.
Providing ample electricity is not going to move mineral prices.
Besides, most mines will attach camp accommodations and that won't help Yukon's economy. Workers will pack their money out.

Demand for electric power increasing in tandem with population growth of 25% in 20 years is an unrealistic approach to future needs.
Each mine should produce its own electric power.

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yukon56 on Jan 30, 2015 at 8:11 am

No one will be happy. Look to Labrador and the issues that had to be hurdled. Without power the Yukon will remain a GVMT subsidy forever

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cassandra on Jan 29, 2015 at 7:33 pm

I hope the First Nations in the area don't get fooled by the big promises and whatever few dollars the government will wave in their faces. This will have a huge impact on traditional activities such as hunting, fishing, trapping and healing camps. As in the animals and fish will disappear, not to mention the noise and sound pollution. I hope all of the First Nations come together on this one. What will be left for the children?

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Doug Martens on Jan 29, 2015 at 7:09 pm

Seems like every last project they propose involves the destruction of yukon's natural beauty. It's a quest. "Population expansion and industrial needs"? As we all know, the Yukon's population is just exploding right? So the main thing is we have to destroy our priceless rivers to enable development to destroy our irreplaceable hills. When's the next electatorship?

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Brian Hemsley on Jan 29, 2015 at 6:15 pm

So, if the Whitehorse dam creates 40 megawatts of power (55-15), then eight 5 megawatt mini river flow projects would double the capacity without flooding any land or raising any lake levels . And many of the watersheds mentioned, are close to existing highways that transmission lines could parallel. Sixteen such sites would create 80 megawatts of new power. Just a thought, flooding huge tracts of land seems like a harsh way to go,

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bob on Jan 29, 2015 at 5:51 pm

Flooding over 500 square km seems very disrespectful to the land we depend on...how dare us to even consider such ecological disrespect

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Good Job Folks Wilf Carter progress on Jan 29, 2015 at 4:24 pm

This is the kind of development planning the Yukon needs to do and thanks to Scott Kent and other local people for final moving this project forward.

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Thomas Brewer on Jan 29, 2015 at 4:15 pm

Up to $2 BILLION dollars? WHAT?!

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Denise Simmons on Jan 29, 2015 at 3:52 pm

Don't even think about Fraser Falls, this is a historic site to NNDFN. Stay the hell out of our traditional territory.

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