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POTENTIAL SITES WHITTLED DOWN – the technical team involved with planning future hydro projects for the Yukon has reduced the number of sites to 16, from more than 200 it started with. it is scheduled to reduce the list to between six and 15 sites by the end of January. Map courtesy MidGard conSUltinG inc. Darielle Talarico, top Peter Helland

Project will submerge hunting grounds, workshop told

Somebody’s hunting grounds are going to be flooded, says the director of communications for the Yukon government’s Next Generation Hydro project.

By Chuck Tobin on November 27, 2014

Somebody’s hunting grounds are going to be flooded, says the director of communications for the Yukon government’s Next Generation Hydro project.

Darielle Talarico told some 80-plus attending a workshop Wednesday to discuss the future of hydro generation in the territory that tough decisions lie ahead.

And there will be people who won’t be happy with those decisions, she suggested.

Those attending the workshop spent the day talking about where the Next Generation project is now, where it’s heading and how long it will take.

They heard of how the B.C. consulting firm hired to conduct site investigations has whittled the list down to 16 potential sites, and will come up with a shorter list of six to 15 sites for the next workshop at the end of January.

Peter Helland of Midgard Consulting explained how his team started with 200-plus locations compiled from hydro studies going back to the 1960s.

It was cut down to 108 sites using high-level criteria, such as casting away duplicate proposals for the same river, or sites that didn’t amount to anything more than a brief mention in past documentation, he said.

Helland said the list was cut down to 47 sites using tighter guidelines, “showstoppers,” such as proposals inside national parks, or any projects on the mainstem of the Yukon River.

There was one project, for instance, which would have flooded Pelly Crossing, he explained.

Helland said the list of 47 potential sites was dropped to 16 largely by economics, cutting projects that were just too expensive, such as the proposal for the Porcupine River and the mammoth transmission line required to reach the grid.

One member of the yesterday’s audience asked about others matters, “smaller” matters, to be taken into consideration.

“What about flooding on the my hunting ground?” he asked Helland.

“Again, I would say somebody’s hunting grounds are going to get flooded,” Talarico responded. “That is why we are talking about it.

“There is not one project in the Yukon that is not going to have an impact, and if it’s in my backyard, I am going to be upset.”

Talarico said the Next Generation Hydro project is meant to provide Yukoners with the information needed to have an informed and open discussion about the tough decisions that lie ahead.

Helland’s job is not to drill down and look at the value of individual cottages as part of his team’s work.

Rather, the job of Midgard Consulting and their associates is to develop a shortlist of sites, examine other issues such as connecting the Yukon grid to Alaska and B.C., and prepare a series of technical papers to help inform the debate, she said.

The company, Talarico added, will be analyzing future population growth and the corresponding demand for electricity, but as the audience heard yesterday, the days of surplus hydro electricity in the Yukon are gone.

Helland said the Midgard team will also be providing cost estimates, and looking at options for developing projects in stages to keep pace with growth, rather than building everything at once.

Talarico said there will be ample time to discuss individual and community values as the Yukon Development Corp. moves toward the end of next year, when it will recommend one or more sites to the territorial cabinet.

And the work in the next two months to prepare the short list for the end of January will also look at more specific impacts, she said.

Talarico said it will involve, for example, looking at how aboriginal settlement lands, territorial parks or private lands will be affected, at a high level.

The Yukon government announced $2 million in funding last year for the development corporation to conduct the planning exercise.

The intent is to have one or more projects built in 10 or 15 years to supply growth in the next 20 to 50 years, Energy, Mines and Resources Minister Scott Kent indicated in his welcoming remarks Wednesday morning.

Talarico explained it’s either the Yukon pursue renewable energy options like hydro, or accept more greenhouse gas emissions by installing additional generation powered by diesel fuel and natural gas.

She also emphasized, however, that this is a planning exercise. It will be up to the territorial cabinet to ultimately decide whether to move onto the next phase, after it receives the recommendations from the development corporation’s board of directors.

Of the 16 sites presented Wednesday afternoon from which the shortlist will be created by the end of January, six are on the Pelly River; six are on the Frances River north of Watson Lake; two are on the Stewart River; one is on the Teslin River and one is on the Hess River that spills into the Stewart River.

Helland, a consultant who specializes in hydro projects in North America, explained almost all involve a dam or a control structure across the entire river, along with the creation of upstream storage, a reservoir.

Though his team members have not looked at how much flooding will be caused by the various options, they will be doing that work following the creation of the short list in January, he explained.

It was explained the plan is to take the seven technical papers Midgard will produce, combine them with the extensive consultation that will occur between now and June and then begin a viability study at the end of June.

Once the viability study is delivered in the fall, a business case will be built for each option, and then a recommendation will be delivered to cabinet by the end of the year.

The current list of the 16 sites identifies projects varying in size from 25 megawatts on the Frances River up to 300 megawatts at Fraser Falls on the Upper Stewart River.

The total hydro capacity at the Whitehorse Rapids Dam is 40 megawatts.

The Aishihik hydro plant has a total capacity of 37 MW, while there are 15 megawatts of capacity at Mayo, and another 1.3 MW at the Fish Lake Road hydro facility owned by ATCO Electric Yukon.

While the list of 16 did not assign an estimated cost for each of the options, cost estimates for some of the proposals have been identified in previous studies.

The Fraser Falls project was identified in a 2009 study by Yukon Energy, and the cost was estimated at $2.5 billion in 2009 dollars.

A 254-megawatt project at Granite Canyon east of Pelly Crossing was also identified by Yukon Energy’s study. It was also the subject of a pre-feasibility study going back to 1982. The 2009 study put the cost at $1.6 billion.

A 68-page work plan that lays out the Next Generation Hydro project suggests whatever option the territory chooses will likely require assistance from the federal government, as the Yukon’s borrowing limit it $400 million.

The following is a list of the 16 sites, from which the short list will be created by the end of January:

• Detour Canyon – Pelly River, 65 megawatts;

• Detour Canyon and Fortin Lake dam – Pelly River, 100 MW;

• Granite Canyon (large) – Pelly River, 254 MW;

• Granite Canyon (small) – Pelly River, 80 MW;

• Hoole Canyon and Fortin Lake dam – Pelly River, 40 MW;

• Slate Rapids – Pelly River, – 42 MW;

• False Canyon – Frances River, 58 MW;

• Middle Canyon or lower (small) – Frances River, 14 MW;

• Middle Canyon or lower (large) – Frances River, 75 MW;

• Upper Canyon (large) – Frances River, 75 MW;

• Upper Canyon (medium) – Frances River, 58 MW:

• Upper Canyon (small) – Frances River, 25 MW;

• Fraser Falls (high) – Stewart River, 300 MW;

• Fraser Falls (low) – Stewart River, 100 MW;

• Two Mile Canyon – Hess River, 53 MW; and

• Teslin River – 55 MW.

Comments (14)

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woodcutter on Dec 1, 2014 at 4:06 pm

Here it comes, even tho I warned you it would, you instead believed your lawyer and hi-priced Okie consultant that it would never happen, and then Dave Morrison arrests your fears with the words saying that the public does not have an appetite for a mega project any longer. Maybe when you had them k**sing your a**, to use your land, to extend the power line, you should have played your trump card, instead you discarded your ace.

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north_of_60 on Nov 29, 2014 at 6:51 pm

A very small percent of the Yukon's vast hunting grounds might be displaced by hydro development. The alternative is using more fossil fuels. I'd rather have more hydro until small scale Thorium nuclear is available.

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Yukon Sally on Nov 28, 2014 at 4:35 pm

Actually, though hydro is viewed as a green energy source, the damage it does to water ecological systems is pretty extensive. I agree with a previous comment about nuclear options; however, I would prefer to see a small thorium reactor as the waste produced has a much much shorter lifespan than that created from uranium. Or what happened to the studies into geothermal power? I know studies were done and there were viable sites throughout the Yukon, big expensive study shows potential and they decide to study something else? This is getting ridiculous....

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Groucho d'North on Nov 28, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Back in 1994 a little thing called the Internet was invented and has since grown to dominate how business communications are conducted and how individuals stay in touch with each other. The infrastructure to support this new telecommunications systems eats vast amounts of electrical energy, much of it for air conditioning to keep the apparatus cool and from overheating. State of the art televisions also consume more juice. So hands up- who wants to give up these modern conveniences to save energy?
More people have moved to the territory and more will come as they get tired of living in each others pockets in major centers. Our energy demand side will increase over time, make no mistake. I'm glad YEC is looking ahead and are not waiting for problems to appear before they work on a solution. And a number of people have to realize that change is inevitable and some impacts will be felt in the wilderness to provide the infrastructure our grandchildren will need to live their lives and have the electrical power for whatever new inventions are still ahead.

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wilf Carter on Nov 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm

This is pro-active approach to our energy needs and we don't get behind the eight ball in the future and it is green energy which every one wants. Good work and forward thinking in building a solid future for the Yukon.

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Next Generation Hydro on Nov 28, 2014 at 2:11 pm

These are great comments and all part of the very important conversation we need on Next Generation Hydro. Public dialogue and engagement are an important part of this process. The technical team is working on a paper, to be released in January, that explores exactly this question. It will help inform the discussion on population growth and industrial need 20-50 years from now. This paper, along with many other resources will be posted on the website and there will be opportunities to ask questions and provide feedback at the next speaker event in January. Visit www.nextgenerationhydro.ca for more information. Feedback and questions can also be provided via the email address listed on the website.

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Proscience Greenie on Nov 28, 2014 at 11:17 am

Not everything is about resource extraction bobbybitman. Our electrical usage in 2009 - mining 7%, residential 36%, commercial/institutional 44%, other 12%, street lighting 1%.

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sunstainablesam on Nov 27, 2014 at 11:41 pm

What if we, *gasp*, tried living within our means? Maybe only open as many mines as our current grid will allow for and spreading the benefits of resources extraction over a longer period of time? "Growth" is not the only way. Humans created this system of pillage and consumption, we can change it. We're smart like that.

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joella on Nov 27, 2014 at 11:12 pm

Who decided it was either hydro or natural gas/diesel? What about demand-side management and microprojects if it's only to address some population growth?

You want to build a project to attract mines to the Yukon with promises of hooking them up to the grid. Fine. But at least say it out in the open instead of couching it in terms of future population growth. Right now, with the slump in the mining industry, I think there is a surplus.

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doug martens on Nov 27, 2014 at 8:27 pm

Whoa, whoa and WHOA! We just spent 35 million on LNG generation and now blew another 2 MILLION on a... study! And who is it exactly that is running so short of electricity? Hands up, please. As I thought, no one. Population growth? What population growth?
It's pretty obvious that the concern for future power needs is nothing but a mask for more feeding at the tax trough. Anyone else want to take a chance and wait and see if the lights actually really begin to dim before we go off destroying pristine rivers?

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Yukoner on Nov 27, 2014 at 5:42 pm

Bobby, it's only a little bit about mines. We can't meet our current residential/non mine demand now without burning fossil fuels.
However, I don't really understand why we are not even exploring the nuclear option. No, really. The small modular systems, such as the Toshiba reactors, have been studied for use in rural Alaska. They are light years ahead of the Fukushima plant in terms of design. Northern Alberta will have a nuke plant for power in 20 years.
All viable power sources have negatives. Fossil fuels have emission issues, hydro floods lands, there's no free lunch. We need to have a long hard look at where we want to go.

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Frank Greentree on Nov 27, 2014 at 4:48 pm

Fraser Falls (low) looks promising.

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Captain Obvious on Nov 27, 2014 at 4:26 pm

Yep... unless you have a gorgeous natural situation like Aishihik and Otter Falls where there is a natural lake WAY above the valley, you have to flood...

But between this and having to burn fossil fuels, I'm all for hydro. The only real feasible, renewable option in the Yukon is to increase our hydro capacity.

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bobbybitman on Nov 27, 2014 at 3:18 pm

This is not about 'future population growth' in the Yukon. It is about resource extraction infrastructure paid for by the tax payer, to serve the corporate friends of the Yukon Party and the Conservative Party of Canada. Sweet deals all round for consultants, ATCO maybe, construction, and especially resource extraction companies, and the tab picked up by destruction to ecology - again; and normal Canadians who pay taxes.

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