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More RVs in campgrounds envisioned

The Yukon government is thinking about whether it should build commercial RV stalls, at the risk of competing with the private RV sector.

By Chuck Tobin on December 3, 2015

The Yukon government is thinking about whether it should build commercial RV stalls, at the risk of competing with the private RV sector.

A discussion paper obtained and circulated by the NDP sets out the options.

They include redesignating existing campground sites as commercial RV stalls, and adding commercial stalls onto existing campground facilities.

It’s contemplating whether it should consider partnering with First Nations to develop new RV parks on existing public land or aboriginal settlement land, says the discussion paper.

It also speaks to purchasing private land for the development of additional RV parks, to be leased out and managed by a private operator.

The paper, dated May 12, 2015, points out that all options run the risk of being viewed as the Yukon government going into competition with the commercial RV sector.

NDP Environment critic Kate White said this morning if this is how the Yukon Party is living up to its platform commitment to expand campground opportunities for Yukoners, it’s a skewed way of going about it.

“What I think is this will benefit a lucky few, and it will leave the rest wrestling for spots,” she said.

White suggested if the government is even thinking about getting into the commercial RV business, there needs to be a public discussion now, before the government gets too tangled up in a plan that doesn’t make sense.

White insisted the government discussion paper is authentic.

In its introduction, the paper says: “The limited capacity of some existing campgrounds within two or three hours of Whitehorse has created some difficulties for Yukoners to find RV spaces.

Meanwhile, campgrounds beyond three hours of Whitehorse are less popular and reportedly underutilized.

“This paper sets out a number of lease/licence options which potentially increase RV capacity and provide opportunities for individuals to leave their RVs onsite for extended periods.”

Options set out in the paper include redesignating existing campground sites in underutilized campgrounds as commercial RV stalls available under a lease or licence.

There is the option of adding on commercial RV stalls to the busier campgrounds closer to Whitehorse which would take advantage of existing campground infrastructure such as roads and reduce development costs.

There’s an opportunity to partner with First Nations to build RV parks on existing government land or settlement land, resulting in a stronger relationship with First Nations and more economic opportunities.

The Yukon government could purchase private land or it could tender out existing government land specifically for the development of an RV park, says the discussion paper.

All options and associated costs would be influenced by several factors, including the level of service provided to the new stalls, whether there would be power provided, stations for emptying RV tanks and so on.

Going with a private land development would be influenced by the price of the land, and whether the government could find a party interested in leasing the business, the paper points out.

The paper indicates any government involvement in the development of more commercial RV stalls could be seen as government competing with the private RV sector.

Energy, Mines and Resources Minister Scott Kent was unavailable to the Star this morning to discuss the matter and his intentions.

When White raised the subject Wednesday in the legislature, Kent said the government is living up to its commitment to expand campground opportunities for Yukoners. He then cited a number of examples.

Kent, however, did not mention anything about the RV discussion.

Comments (7)

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There lots of campers who want long term camp sites for the summer on Dec 9, 2015 at 1:40 pm

This is the norm every where else in Canada.
The question is does any private sector person want to step up and make it into a business?
The problem is no private sector person has access to land to do this.
This is a great idea - now we have to figure out how best to do it.
In Haines, Alaska there is a camp site that you rent for the year and Yukoners have used it for many years.
It is going up to the head of the bay east of Haines.

Positive development for the Yukon.
Keep it up

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Camper on Dec 5, 2015 at 7:57 am

All you people complaining about Wal-Mart parking need to realize Whitehorse is not the centre of the camping universe. By the time campers get to Whitehorse from any direction they have been camping out in the boonies for a minimum of several nights and are glad to see a town with all the services they are used to so they can restock before heading back into the hinterland. If they want to park right downtown for shopping and walking distance to see the sights let them.
RV parks are like any other business in the sense that people are free to use them or not as they see fit. In comparison do you see restaurants complaining that people are eating at home and the government should regulate eating out one night a week?

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ProScience Greenie on Dec 4, 2015 at 10:44 am

Is the YP going off the deep end with this? Let the private sector deal with the RV crowd. Maybe make it a little easier and cheaper to grab a piece of land to open up a commercial RV business. RV parks can be nice small business that we need more of.

As far as our campgrounds go, how hard is it to build a few more regular sites? A day or two in each campground with a small excavator, skidsteer and a dump truck is all that's needed. Throw in a few picnic tables, fire pits and maybe a new outhouse or two. It's not rocket science. Just do it.

And when it comes to people hogging campsites by leaving their gear at a site all week to claim it for the weekend, simply make doing that illegal and haul people's stuff out of there if they are gone for more than 48 hours unless that have a valid reason for doing so such as an medical emergency. Again, not rocket science to stop that kind of abuse.

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jc on Dec 3, 2015 at 9:55 pm

I don't know how they expect to make any money out of it since Walmart lets the American millionaires park for free for as long as they want. So, stop spending our taxes on another foolish venture.

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June Jackson on Dec 3, 2015 at 9:07 pm

Why on earth would the government even consider a project that would put them into direct competition with private enterprise? What do the current park owners think of this? Kate is right, people need to talk about this. Very likely though the decision has already been made...

There has to be another way of adding an RV park without hurting existing business..so..this was a platform promise, with 10 months left before an election has to be called NOW YP wants to keep its word...too little too late..I would still vote for my neighbors poodle before I'd vote Yukon party again...

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Groucho d'North on Dec 3, 2015 at 6:17 pm

I have not yet read the options paper noted in this story, but on the surface, this looks like a ill-considered move. I'm not sure about government but in business a Pro- Con list is often used to consider a project at the initial sketch stage, things have to be pretty positive for it to advance in next steps, and it appears this is a ways from being steps.
I think it would also be worthwhile to poll the ultimate users of our campgrounds, and I don't mean the groups of young people who consider the campgrounds to be their party headquarters. No, I mean the rubber tire visitors. Put a link to a survey in the online version of the Milepost over the winter. Get some feedback from the people that could potentially be miffed by this new proposal.

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Politico on Dec 3, 2015 at 5:22 pm

What commercial RV parks? WalMart killed them. Too bad no level of government had the courage to stand up to them.
I remember the RVers saying they were too poor and the campsites too expensive for them to stay in Whitehorse. If they couldn't stay free at WalMart they would just bypass the town and spend no money here!

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