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A MESSAGE FOR THE MINISTER – A group of Hillcrest residents uses a break in traffic streams to cross the Alaska Highway last Wednesday, during Bike to Work Week. They say several cabinet ministers have indicated no short-term solutions are planned for the residents’ traffic anxieties.

Hillcresters lobby for safer road crossing

The Hillcrest Community Association is calling for a safer crossing for pedestrians and cyclists at the Alaska Highway between the neighbourhood and airport trail.

By Stephanie Waddell on June 4, 2018

The Hillcrest Community Association is calling for a safer crossing for pedestrians and cyclists at the Alaska Highway between the neighbourhood and airport trail.

In a statemeant sent out Friday, the association highlighted its efforts of last Wednesday.

That day, cyclists from the area made their way across the highway at 8:15 a.m. The Yukon government oversees the highway.

The association called its actions a way to send a message to Highways and Public Works Minister Richard Mostyn that the issue is a priority for the community.

“For many years now, Hillcrest has been asking for a safe highway crossing,” said Dan Bader, a director with the association.

“We need to create a way for pedestrians and cyclists to get across the highway safely. We are also concerned about creating a safe way for vehicles to enter and exit our neighbourhood, which is becoming increasingly dangerous.”

The last traffic study for the area was done in 2011.

Since then, Bader noted in an interview this morning, traffic has only increased on the highway.

And that’s expected to continue as plans for a new North 60 Petro cardlock gas station move forward and more mines are anticipated to get up and running in the territory.

“What may have worked in the past, simply isn’t meeting our safety needs anymore. It’s time to make safety improvements,” Bader noted.

Many parents would likely be more comfortable having their kids bike to the downtown area if there were a safer crossing, he continued.

Many residents have expressed concerns that once a new gas station complex is in and operating, there won’t be enough of a break in traffic for pedestrians and cyclists to get across the road to the trail.

“We are very concerned about the impact to the safety of pedestrians, cyclists, and commuters if we have cars, RVs and large trucks streaming into our neighbourhood all day long to refuel,” said Bader.

The association has met a number of times with government officials about the issue, the group said in its statement.

“Most recently, the Hillcrest Community Association met with Deputy Premier Ranj Pillai in August 2017, and Highways and Public Works Minister Richard Mostyn, and our MLA, Jeanie Dendys, in September 2017 and again in May 2018,” the group said.

“We were told that a safe highway crossing for Hillcrest was not a priority, and wouldn’t be considered for at least another four to five years.”

While the crossing may be some time off, Bader said, the association would like to see at least some interim action taken to help deal with the situation.

“It looks like there’s nothing in the works,” Bader said of any kind of interim solution.

He pointed to overhead crosswalk signs other neighbourhoods have that could draw more attention to pedestrians trying to cross the highway.

As well, traffic radar may help convince drivers to slow down, he added.

Bader also suggested lowering the speed limit on the highway between Two Mile Hill and Robert Service Way so that it’s consistent throughout that stretch of the road.

Bader noted there are three changes in the speed limit between the two areas.

A consistent lower limit of perhaps 60 or 70 km/h could “keep that whole section calmer,” he suggested.

The former Yukon Party government had considered spending an estimated $200 million over 20 years to widen the Alaska Highway corridor in Whitehorse to two lanes in each direction.

The Liberal government cancelled that plan after coming to office.

Comments (37)

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Yukon Justice on Jun 10, 2018 at 12:11 pm

Anything to do with the safety of people living in Whitehorse is basically ignored by the City. How do I know? Adit Lane is a 1000 foot drag race. Do you think the City will post speed limits or a sign at the entrance to the playground? No they won't. Someday a person will be hit by the traffic and the City will be sued.
It's strange but over fifty years ago I was crossing the highway and my dog Prince was hit and killed in that exact same spot.

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Is the runway open? on Jun 8, 2018 at 1:17 pm

I'd like to ride my bicycle on the runway. Sure I can't fly, I can't keep up, and am probably a hazard for any other user but my right to ride wherever I want unimpeded trumps basic logic.

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Double standard on Jun 7, 2018 at 4:41 pm

Looking at the photo......are these bikers aware that each of them must come to a full and compete stop as the sign on Burns road indicates but these folks just plow through the intersection en masse.

Typical 'chameleon' bikers. One moment they want to be treated like cars, the next moment driving down a sidewalk, or 2 abreast on the highway, or driving on the wrong side of the road, or...........

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Dr Mantis Toboggan on Jun 7, 2018 at 4:40 pm

Ban bikes on all roadways, problem solved.

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When I read the statements on local Improvement Charges on Jun 7, 2018 at 4:38 pm

The other issue is during the last municipal election in 2015 the follow took place.
I asked the minister to provide answers to the following:
When electronic voting system broke down how were the votes. He would not answer the question. I also asked the following:
Why was the mayor permitted to use City of Whitehorse property at the Canada games, City booth and man power to promote is mayor bid.
Why was the mayor permitted to use City Council chambers in his bid for mayor.
It was all over the media.
I was told by the City returning officer when I signed up for mayor candidate that I cannot use City property, assets or resources and I did not use any City assets.
It is against the law to use City Government assets.
I have got to know answers to any of the above questions
If the votes were counted by hand and electrically then no candidate was permitted over on the counting. That is totally against the law.
I have been a CAO in the Yukon and ran municipal elections.
The return should be null and void and called a new election.
I have been trying for years to get the City and Yukon Government to complete an independent investigation but they refuse to do that.
When I sent the former City Manager and Mayor requesting the above, the City Manager answered my request after several weeks went by.
To the Mayor or City Manager, Whitehorse and Yukoners have the right to know what's going on in our governments. Politician let it go on unchecked. Why?
Wilf Carter
We need to build our City to be strong again. To many bad decisions are costing use way to much.
Ha Mandeep.
Are you running again?
You told me a year or so I should step out on this next election.

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When I read the statements on local Improvement Charges on Jun 7, 2018 at 4:15 pm

First the municipal act on LIC is wrong. The City policy made a bad situation worse.
Anything lake water lines, sewage and pavement are not to be charged to land owners.
What can be charged to land owners under LIC is upgrades to sidewalks, street lights, back lanes.
Reserved funds are set to pay for the main infrastructure in the street.
I tried to explain to this City engineering.
One council called Edmonton and stated this is the way they charge land owners.
I talked to the land planning group and anything infrastructured in the streets cannot be charged.
I strongly supported HillCrest residents not to vote for the upgrades because the way City is doing the upgrades and charging to landowners is wrong.
I talked to a lawyer who specializes in municipal law and he said the actions of the City on how they are charging LIC is wrong. LIC across Canada would show that the City of Whitehorse would have to correct the practices of they apply LIC.
The mayor has pushed for these charges, each time, and the majority of councillors support the direction.
This is only one of the many problems the residents of Whitehorse will encounter if we don't do things properly.
Hillcrest is an old areas and needs sewage, water especially the mains.
Lines go through properties etc. What City has to have is the Yukon and Federal Government fund a complete overhaul of HillCrest.
But they can't see or understand what's been done.

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Not informed on Jun 7, 2018 at 1:14 pm

I think Mandeep is saying that the community asked for a bunch and didn't want to pay. Seems that way.

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Mandeep Sidhu - johnston on Jun 7, 2018 at 1:09 pm

Thank you for your response.

You're talking about this right?
http://www.whitehorse.ca/departments/engineering-services/local-improvement-li-projects/hillcrest

1 - Yes, the process is flawed. That's my main point. Should it be residents or landowners voting? Who knows? But I don't think the LIC vote should have gone ahead in it's flawed state. You also realize the paradox of the statements;

HCA was for the improvements but then the LIC wasn't approved. So they wanted the upgrades but didn't want to pay for them. That means there isn't a parallel. Those two ideas can't coexist.

2- No, you're correct here, I followed the facebook threads + the news stories. My understanding about the HCA was they represent the views/opinions of Hillcresters. Not once was there (from my research) an approach at getting scaled back version. You've attacked me, fine. But you haven't addressed the issue about the extras. Did the HCA ever ask that "no upgrades be done but just the necessary infrastructure repairs?" From the Facebook comments + City followup, the answer is no.
3- The landlord point is this. If you're a landlord and you can take in the same amount of money + pay less property tax + not pay a LIC, where is the incentive to vote YES? A homeowner who lives in the area and has to contend with the issues sees an immediate benefit (who knows the upgrades may make things worse). Also, if someone is selling a home, there is a benefit for the upgrade, property value increases. So the point i'm making is people may have voted no to save a few dollars. Which actually ties in nicely to my next point:
Why did people vote "No?" (I did go through the years meeting minutes for HCA... this question was never answered)
a) The LIC was too much
b) They saw no benefit in the plan
c) They didn't want the plan as it was proposed
d) Other?

HCA didn't once bring the yes/no debate to an objective discussion. They pushed an Agenda that said "Look at the benefit!" now "Don't vote for it!"

4) You seem to agree but we have differing opinons; which is outside of the scope.
Now the rest of your response seems to just be a rant. I am informed, HCA's should present ideas objectively and consider ALL inputs (I have enough documentation to show this hasn't happened), I do read all of the meeting minutes.

I've provided the community plan. HCA could have lobbied the City to have essential services, like they are trying to lobby Mostyn. The problem is they have a fundamental disconnect between wants/needs and how to pay for it.

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bass on Jun 7, 2018 at 12:37 pm

MVA 13. Bicycles = like cars.

Cars don't cross the highway then go onto a bike path. The winter section clearly states dismounting. It also talks about NOT going back and forth from sidewalks to the road. You can't pick and choose; pedestrian, car, pedestrian, car. At that crossing they are using it as a pedestrian crossing. Not a car crossing.So walk.

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im glad that... on Jun 7, 2018 at 12:47 am

Hillcrest has the airport (federal), Berinigia (yg), and Condor road on board with their ideas. Transportation museum too!

oh wait

nope
12 egoists

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johnson on Jun 6, 2018 at 8:49 pm

@bass

Yes, section 13 of the MVA deals with bicycles. Can you point me to the clause about dismounting to cross a roadway, especially one with no crosswalk? Best of luck to you.

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johnson on Jun 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm

Hah, Mandeep.

"The LIC had a few major flaws."
1- Votes not returned would be counted yes
Yes, this is a major flaw. Even as such, the project was still overturned by a rather clear majority of voters. Hardly something you can blame a small group of people for.

2- There was no option to negotiate the work, they accepted a trumped up plan by HCA that involved a TONNE of extras that raised the LIC to a ridiculous level. The community associations don't have that kind of power, the design work was done by the city in consultation with residents at a number of meetings. I'm sure you attended one, so either your lying or not paying attention

3- Landlords that didn't live in the area could vote. So if you don't have to pay for an upgrade and can get the same rent... why not?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here, landlords vote because they DO have to pay the LIC. Who do you think pays the property taxes on those rentals?
4- Repairs + upgrades would increase property values thus increasing property tax. Homeowners may have voted it down because of the increase in property tax + the LIC.

Maybe, but isn't that their right? It's not like it's a neighbourhood of great wealth. Property taxes in this city are exceptionally low for a city this size, and with these services. We're all living on the federal dole here, so stop pretending like you're any different. Maybe if the taxes were levied at a more appropriate rate, the city could afford these projects without levying $20,000 fees to residents.

"Had HCA agreed with only "essential" repairs, the City would have been in a tough spot to level a LIC. "

Again, I think you misunderstand the role of community associations. They don't make decisions, and certainly play no greater role in the planning than any individual. The LIC in this particular case was levied for the surface repairs (ie roads and sidewalks) after the sewers and subsurface was complete and paid for with federal dollars. The community even ASKED for sub standard surface works (keeping the ditches and narrower roads) to which the city agreed, but still charged the full rate.

Get informed and stop making baseless accusation on the volunteers that all of our communities go round up here.

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no, you dont switch back and forth on Jun 6, 2018 at 6:00 pm

if they are pedestrians then they should walk. If they are bicyclists they should follow the rules of the road and be like a car. So the lane is to the right, not the left. They were crossing to the bike path. They should have ridden towards the airport and then turned onto it while staying to the far right. Not crossing as a pedestrian would with the benefits of being a car.

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Just Sayin' on Jun 6, 2018 at 3:35 pm

@johnson

No, but there is bicycling common sense and etiquette..
There are several reasons for a dismount sign, mostly to regulate the speed that you arrive at the intersection.

- a motorist has more time to identify and yield for a pedestrian who is standing alongside the road. A rolling cyclist has the potential to enter more suddenly than a pedestrian, and is less visible since they are further from the intersection as the car is approaching. 169(1) of MVA act

- a cyclist who has to stop and dismount isn't going to tempt fate by trying to "beat" an oncoming car.

- pedestrian safety - the person on foot only has to worry about looking both ways while crossing, not looking both ways with someone behind them is shouting "on your left'. They want a safe crossing, not just for bicyclists, but for people walking too. (COW BYLAWS) state bikes must have a device to signal pedestrians.

- There's no chance of falling over while walking a bike across. Most falls on a cycle happen when stopping and starting.
Also, you are supposed to ride one abreast when riding your bike, not conglomerate like a rock,.

@hillcrester
At least Mandeep had the fortitude to place his real name. Easy to hide behind anonymity. I understand the hypocrisy of my statement.

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bass on Jun 6, 2018 at 3:11 pm

MVA SECTION 13.

http://www.whitehorse.ca/home/showdocument?id=3056

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Mandeep Sidhu on Jun 6, 2018 at 3:02 pm

Hillcrester;

The LIC had a few major flaws.
1- Votes not returned would be counted yes
2- There was no option to negotiate the work, they accepted a trumped up plan by HCA that involved a TONNE of extras that raised the LIC to a ridiculous level
3- Landlords that didn't live in the area could vote. So if you don't have to pay for an upgrade and can get the same rent... why not?
4- Repairs + upgrades would increase property values thus increasing property tax. Homeowners may have voted it down because of the increase in property tax + the LIC.

Had HCA agreed with only "essential" repairs, the City would have been in a tough spot to level a LIC.

The major problem though was seeing the forest for the trees. A friend of mine explained one simple thing... "I voted in favour, the reason why is because these opportunities don't come along often. If we don't accept it then the money will go elsewhere and we'll have to wait for our turn to come around again."

You can take the pros/cons of it, doesn't matter to me; what concerns me is that the deal that was tabled was extravagant and catered to a certain group of people. We don't need paved bike paths for the three people that ride snow bikes. We don't need all of the sidewalks ripped up so that they can be replaced with "easy on easy off" sidewalks. We don't need a dedicated path that cuts through the residential area for pedestrians + bicycles.

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Nope on Jun 6, 2018 at 2:32 pm

It's a highway. Respect that. If you don't you can be injured or killed. This goes for pedestrians, bikes and vehicles.

The reality is (and I've waited at those intersections) you need to wait for a break in traffic, the highway has the right of way.

In many jurisdictions highways have controlled access meaning that there wouldn't be access from both Hillcrest roads, the car wash, Skky, Burns Road, the Chalet etc. There would be a single access point for all those roads. Much safer.

As mentioned below, it's hilariously ironic that Hillcrest blocked local road and infrastructure improvements just months ago and now they want special treatment and consideration for themselves. No one else on the 2,237 km of the Alaska highway is asking for a 'bike underpass'.

I also heard Stikeman on CBC this AM obviously using the HCA as a a platform for her future campaign.

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Why such anger at these folks???? on Jun 6, 2018 at 8:04 am

If you read the byline of the photo, it says there's a break in traffic which is why there are no vehicles in sight. But I'm curious why there's such a strong reaction to a group of people who are simply asking for a safer crossing. Crossing the highway here, and in several other places, is not for the faint of heart ... but the story seems to have dredged up all sorts anger. Strange.

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Hillcrester on Jun 6, 2018 at 12:36 am

Hah, lots of big talk about the LIC vote here. Mandeep levels that the HCA is in the minority on these issues, but the neighbourhood voted as a majority to oppose the project and I for one support this effort.

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johnson on Jun 6, 2018 at 12:34 am

To all those pointing out the cyclists are riding across the street, there is nothing in bylaw or law that requires cyclists to dismount at an intersection. In fact, most bicycle laws demand that pedestrians behave as motor vehicles and have the same rights and responsibilities. You don't get out of your vehicle to cross the road, do you?

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Duke on Jun 5, 2018 at 5:38 pm

In the Vince Federoff captioned photo he speaks about the parade crossing the hi way during a 'break' in traffic. Vince there is no traffic for there to be a break in. Sheesh!
Don't ask me to pay for any of this frivolous request.

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Bandit on Jun 5, 2018 at 1:44 pm

Actually 13 bikes and one trailer in the photo and only 1 person dismounts and walks across ?

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Bandit on Jun 5, 2018 at 1:37 pm

Mandeep Sidhu for Mayor

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You got own3d on Jun 5, 2018 at 12:47 pm

Find it funny that HCA members are deleting dissenting opinions on the community page.

ill sitnwatch

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so you got 12 bikes across, some with carriers... and not a car in sight on Jun 5, 2018 at 12:29 pm

and this is the problem?

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Just Sayin' on Jun 5, 2018 at 11:16 am

OMG. It is called look both ways before crossing the road. If you cannot figure it out, go back to kindergarten or watch the kids downtown who will show you how it is done.
The worst part of this photo is they are crossing at the busiest location on the highway. Not to mention, they are not wearing reflective clothing which would make them easier to see, they have encouraged the kids to ride across the road (poor bike safety) when they should get off and walk across the road. Some of the kids are wearing lose fitting clothing which can get caught in the derailleurs of the bike causing them to fall and perhaps injuring themselves (is that the highways fault too?). Plus, the photo shows, one car on the highway. Perhaps, a more strategic photo would be of a busy highway where you could not cross. Genius!!!
How about you do not cross where there are four places for traffic (Burns Rd, North, South bound Alaska Hgy, and the Airport) as shown in your picture? Of course it is unsafe at that point. Why do you not cross further down the highway where one can see more of the highway (near transportation museum)...Would you cross on the i95. The COW should put up a sign that says no bike and or crossing at that location.
How is it people cannot figure out how to cross the Highway?
Also, how many pedestrians have been hit on the Alaska highway, where are the statistics? IF one feels it unsafe, it does not make it unsafe. Seriously!!!! There used to be a park next to the church, Ecarron Drilling was located where Cliffside is, the Kelly Douglas building had trucks coming in and out of it all the time, there were ore trucks (muffin trucks) headed to Skagway, trucks were always stopping at the Airliner, the entrances to Hillcrest were in poor condition. IT was two lanes, no extra space to turn right, and the highway was in a worse state.. no merge lanes, people passing where they were not supposed to and no one managed to get hit. With the improvements on the highway, it is not harder for you to cross... sometimes, you have to make your own safe crossing and not expect society to do things for you. I hope crow tastes good.

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Wilf Carter on Jun 5, 2018 at 10:46 am

Local Improvement policy does not work in Whitehorse. It is a rip-off to landowners. The municipal act is very poorly written and does not reflect how LIC are supposed to work. Check with Edmonton.

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Wilf Carter on Jun 5, 2018 at 10:42 am

Need a light that bikers can push. Our city has a number of safety issues and the mayor does not understand anything about safety. Just spending like a drunken sailor with no foresight in seeing safety needs. That will all change in the fall.

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MIke on Jun 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

@ Hugh Mungus: Hahahahaha Good one!

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bass on Jun 4, 2018 at 11:11 pm

We want a safer crossing!! To cross unsafely? Single file + dismount on crossing roads. Also riding in front of vehicles on the highway while doing well under the speed limit isn't safe.

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martino on Jun 4, 2018 at 8:24 pm

A light for pedestrians can only lead to many rear-ends collisions. I still remember the flashing red lights on 2 Mile Hill and Industrial.

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YT on Jun 4, 2018 at 6:08 pm

Why not just put in some sort of pedestrian/bike overpass? Underpass? A big culvert could go in pretty quick.
There are lots more commuters who come down through Hillcrest. Granger, Copper Ridge, many come down through HC.

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Stu Panton on Jun 4, 2018 at 5:18 pm

We need safe crossings for dirt bikes in this area. Why is there so much focus on pedestrians and bikers?

All of the trails in this area should be motorized.

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it's probably unsafe on Jun 4, 2018 at 5:01 pm

because you didn't dismount when crossing a highway. Maybe learn the rules of biking/using the road before you start complaining about how unsafe you feel.

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Mandeep Sidhu on Jun 4, 2018 at 4:57 pm

Thank you for completely pushing one side of an agenda and not showing a balanced opinion. Absolutely outlandish that the HCA stood in a meeting with Mostyn where the concerns were addressed yet you continue to chase this.

HCA fought hard against the LIC and blew the opportunity for new roads/infrastructure. Because Hillcrest has poor infrastructure it doesn't make sense to redo the Highway when we know in the near future Hillcrest might have a different entrance/exit. (Clearly explained by Mostyn)

Furthermore, it was explained that all of the anecdotes are great; however, there has only been one collision (RIP) by a car and a truck in the past 20 years. No pedestrians have been killed. None have been hit. Meanwhile at the top of South Access there have been a plethora/multitude, of accidents. SOOO most likely that is going to take priority.

In addition, we have the new Toyota development, COW building, that are being introduced to that thoroughfare, obviously you'll need to incorporate that into any plan to place a "crosswalk or overhead lights."

Finally; there is no substantive information that Hillcrest has supplied that has demonstrated a concern. Mostyn, himself, is a bicyclist that rode out of Hillcrest for multiple years; is it ideal, no, should it be the top priority, NO.

HCA has long been told to fight for our poorly maintained roads, our aging infrastructure, and for lower speed limits. Instead they've grandstanded with their own ideas. Two NDP members have hijacked the HCA and are using it to pad their own resumes.

The HCA had a serious opportunity to upgrade Hillcrest. They went to the City with their own version of upgrades which included new sidewalks, traffic calming measures, new trails, bike paths, etc. The City took this into consideration and offered the upgrades with the caveat that a LIC be paid. Well the cost was too ridiculous for some so Hillcrest voted it down.

Which led to Hillcrest losing all infrastructure upgrades. These infrastructure upgrades could have included preparing an underpass through the AK highway to allow foot/pedal traffic.

I find it so abysmally draining to read this topic over and over again and never once having the HCA think to itself "Do the needs of the 10 of us outweigh the ability for the MAJORITY of the public to travel unimpeded."

You're enough of a nuisance to Hillcresters as is and now you're trying to make life worse for everyone.

I have yet to see the HCA offer a balanced opinion on any of the pressing subjects. As was stated before, it will be stated again "HCA has spoiled the well with the government."

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Hugh Mungus on Jun 4, 2018 at 3:25 pm

Remember the time Hillcrest voted in favour of no local road improvements?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Politico on Jun 4, 2018 at 3:07 pm

If you think this is bad and getting worse wait till the 4 lanes go in. It will be like a shooting gallery. Could always put in a pedestrian light so more cars can run red lights!

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