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Brad Cathers and Charlotte Hrenchuk

Government slams door on local housing projects

The Yukon government has decided not to fund three proposed affordable housing projects in Whitehorse through its Northern Housing Trust monies.

By Ainslie Cruickshank on June 25, 2014

The Yukon government has decided not to fund three proposed affordable housing projects in Whitehorse through its Northern Housing Trust monies.

It cites a recent increase in land availability and housing supply and fears that it could negatively impact the market.

But two rural Yukon projects will receive $1.3 million in support through the initiative.

In October 2013, the Yukon Housing Corp. released a request for qualifications, asking businesses and NGOs to put forward ideas for developing affordable rental stock.

The government announced it planned to use the remaining $13 million of its Northern Housing Trust money to stimulate development of affordable rental units.

By the end of December 2013, 22 project proponents had come forward with ideas, nine of which advanced to the request for proposals (RFP) phase.

Three of those completed the RFP phase, but none will receive funding.

Mayor Dan Curtis expressed shock this afternoon about the government's decision to cancel the affordable housing project in Whitehorse.

"I'm extremely disappointed; I know my council is extremely disappointed as well,” he told the Star.

"The City of Whitehorse has done an awful lot trying to offer incentives and provide some help addressing the affordable, attainable housing in the city of Whitehorse, so yeah, it's a bit of a shocker for us,” said Curtis.

"We're going to, hopefully, next step, work with our partners to see what can be done.”

Both the Yukon Anti-Poverty Coalition and the NDP official Opposition also expressed disappointment and concern about the announcement.

"We're extremely disappointed and disillusioned by that decision,” said Charlotte Hrenchuk, a co-chair of the anti-poverty coalition.

"We were amazed to read in the press release that somehow, recent increases in land availability and housing supply in Whitehorse means that there's no need for these three projects when we know that affordability is a pressing issue for renters in Whitehorse,” she said.

The median rent has increased 18.3 per cent since 2009, she added.

Kate White, the NDP's housing critic, called the decision "another example of this government's total incompetence when it comes to dealing with the housing file.”

But a past president of the Yukon Real Estate Association has a different opinion of the government's move not to fund the affordable housing projects.

Val Smith said this morning she thinks it was an "excellent decision.”

Smith argued government interference in the housing market could have negative consequences.

She suggested it makes the most sense to wait until the Yukon Housing Action Plan is completed before earmarking the remaining Northern Housing Trust dollars.

Brad Cathers, the minister responsible for the housing corporation, explained this morning the government heard the input from the real estate association and the Yukon Residential Landlords Association that there has been a recent increase in land availability and housing supply.

The minister pointed to new lots available in Whistle Bend and other areas as well as investments by residents putting in rental suites and second dwellings for rental on their properties.

The concern from the realtors, he said, is that if the government were to subsidize new rental units at this time, it would actively discourage private development.

But White questions why the government isn't listening to Blood Ties Four Directions and the anti-poverty coalition.

Those organizations, she argued, are the real experts when it comes to Whitehorse's housing needs.

"My hope is that the two organizations, the landlords association and the realtors association team up with the NGOs and help direct government to a more targeted housing direction, that they're actually addressing the gaps right now, and there are many gaps,” White said.

Smith said the real estate association is a partner in the development of the Housing Action Plan, as are a number of realtors and bankers.

Cathers could not say yet what the remaining $11.5 million of housing trust money will go towards, saying only, "We'll announce that in due course.”

The minister did note though that the housing trust money is just one pot the government pulls from to fund housing projects. He pointed to the new seniors housing projects, which the government funded through its general revenues.

In terms of the rural projects announced today, the Carcross/Tagish Development Corp. will receive $225,026 to help meet the total cost of constructing two one-bedroom units, estimated at $450,052.

The Carmacks Development Corp., meanwhile, will receive just more than $1.1 million toward six two-bedroom units.

Construction is estimated to cost a total of $2.2 million.

Comments (28)

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Josey Wales on Jul 6, 2014 at 5:50 am

Hmmm...some interesting points here to say the least.
If I may? Let me correlate our scene here with wildlife and their cycle to the best of my knowledge (yeah I know...insert eye roll here).
Call Whitehorse for purposes of this a fake wild place with ZERO safety nets, the critters that forage here and breed.
Folks I'm not going down the "eat or be eaten" spiel...buuut, with so so many critters living a new life of densification seems they may not be getting along quite as harmoniously as Walt Disney or Zia may illustrate?
We are feeding off a food source that is unsustainable, we reside in a forest with many critters not indigenous to this region (me included for full disclosure) our forest is getting taxed to the max with the influx of newbies.
Many others are having offspring they cannot feed and will never teach skills required to survive the wilds for a myriad of reasons all of which undermine the natural cycle of life. Where we bed down for the night/day?
Yup...it too is getting ridiculous, critters are getting cranky, restless and (apparently) hostile. Maybe if instead of stuffing all the critters into a zoo (Whitehorse) they should jump or tear down the fence of the zoo and live in more spacious setting (country residential or gasp...the actual wilds)?
Sounds easy...but the zoo keepers (political blow-holes) wish us confined, gives them a purpose (in ruling/feeding/sheltering us/healing us).
Now some critters due to being confined for so long have either lost interest or ability to hunt and forage on their own, a absolute death sentence in the wild kingdom.
Others? Well they seem to resent those other critters as they totally consume the zoo keepers time, and in the zoo since they cannot hunt on their own...dinner is late and less each day it arrives. For those able and interested in exercising those wildlife skills it creates a huge problem in the zoo.
Man...I tried so hard to avoid it...but seems I cannot?
Any critter wishing to be fed without hunting/foraging on their own, we call them babies or supper.
Seems we study lots to understand the range requirements of bears, moose, wolves etc and beat into our heads why they need that space right? Why not the same study for us mere lowly humans?
I can tell ya now, we all need room to move, place to sleep, raise and feed our OWN offspring. we all need to teach our offspring life skills to survive too.
Funny thing though, the goal post keeps getting moved, score is disregarded and rules changed to be fully inclusive for all regardless of interest and each year less on ability...not a damn thing natural about that...life skills lost (being competitive).
Given the times we now have been FORCED to live in?
I wonder how long before we suffer from the Galapagos syndrome, where if there is no "need" to fly...one soon forgets how.
Reading these posts and this article, I think it's too late.
Hope I don't step on a bird or trip over a hammered Caribou next time I'm in the zoo.
See ya'll at the fully inclusive zoo, funny thing?
They charge admission (taxes) to feed the critters in said zoo...despite many being able themselves to feed, forage, hunt and shelter down.
Hope confused is not more confused, as it is not that hard to pick up what I'm putting down.
Brice and ya'll have a go at me..go nuts this is fun, really I mean that.

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Confused on Jul 5, 2014 at 12:42 pm

@brice carruthers... You have me so very confused on your thought process. So my kid thinks he is "entitled" and would rather play video games!? Are you a Canadian youth applying for jobs so you can save for post secondary or a vehicle or potentially a home? Are you a you too getting turned down over and over because a 30 year old immigrant is willing to do the same jobs your applying for? But with the added benefit they are no longer in school therefore scheduling will be made easier, and even better for the employer they've been educated in the ways of how the work field works, so that's less training and less time wasted teaching career skills to our youth. Oh but the cherry on top, most are contracted into employment for a set number of years based on their arrangement, so they aren't going to up and leave if it's not a good work environment. I highly doubt you are. And this is nothing against immigration but at what point is it affecting our economy? It already has. Which is twice over at the very least going to effect our youths economy.
Oh and a few quick points Brice, a kid would probably love to deliver papers..in between school, homework, having an active healthy amount of playtime, but even then everything is now virtual. How do you suppose you have commented online to the paper? Maybe you should have a delivery subscription so our kids actually have a job to work hard at? Also to the point I saved for last, if an inkling of what you're saying about our Canadian children feeling entitled and the jobs not being good enough. What exactly is different about the immigration system? In my country I get paid less to do this job so I'm not going to do it, I'll go do it in Canada for more money. Is that not the same exact thing?

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Say What? on Jun 30, 2014 at 8:39 am

@ To the Brice's of the World, How about you now state your point in plain English, in your own words, rather than what appears to be copied out of a textbook. I have totally lost what you were trying to say.

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To the Brice's of the World on Jun 30, 2014 at 7:15 am

To the Brice's of the World ... consider this:

A major finding of social science is that the root causes of social problems are located within the social order rather than within the individuals who comprise it.

This "societal” or "structural” interpretation of social problems has often had to contend with a powerful train of thought, which attributes social problems to more individualistic causes.

Even though sociological investigations as to the nature of social problems have been extensive, the structural understanding has not banished the individualistic interpretations to the wilderness.

Available evidence, in fact, supports the contention that the individualistic view tenaciously persists.

Research has teased out that white, middle-income Protestants generally adhere to a more thoroughly individualistic understanding of poverty, while lower-income persons or discriminated against minorities are more prone to identify structural causes as the source of poverty.

Hence, the former group is more apt to locate the origins of poverty in the personal attributes said to characterize the poor (for example, moral corruption, an incomplete commitment to the work ethic, an indiscriminate use of resources, etc.).

The latter group, by contrast, holds that such factors as racial discrimination, an insufficient number of jobs, poor nutrition, and economic exploitation are the more salient determinants of poverty.

If we believe the research and the social scientist, we are left staring at the elephant in the room … what segment of society has dominated decision-making?

The manifestation of that reality is seen in the actions of governments (Alberta under Kline and Ontario under Harris as examples) that:

1. Welfare is a problem and has to be cost contained;

2. We have to choose between economic prosperity and adequate incomes and benefits for all people; and that

3. Poverty is primarily motivational

Brice represents that group of people who believes that poverty is a moral failure on the part of the individual ... the fact the systematic factors are at play or the fact that persons with profound disabilities often inhabit the lower socio-economic sphere of our society are of no concern to him ... his broad brush covers everyone who doesn't look like him. Brice lives in a world devoid of understanding and / or compassion for his fellow citizen and as a society we are poorer for it.

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Local Drifter on Jun 30, 2014 at 6:26 am

"Kids these days are a joke. They get out of school and want to travel the world"

As opposed to settling into a job at one of three levels of government to enjoy being impossible to fire and to count the days until your pension kicks in in your early 70's? Yeah, what a joke.

I can't believe they aren't flocking back to work with adult children who pull 6 figures with a high school education, simply because they moved here 30 years ago are semi-literate/ have a pulse. Those darn youngsters! It's like they see the very high cost of living and economy utterly dependent on the generosity of Ottawa and think "wow there are better options".

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Just Say'in on Jun 28, 2014 at 1:15 pm

Entry level jobs should be filled by entry level workers. However that has not been happening for the last ten years. If there is an unfair advantage it is the precious youngster living at home with his or her helicopter parents hauling them to whatever activity and event they choose to take part in. They are so precious as a matter of fact, their prospective employer gets a list of their activities and should build a schedule around them.

Entry level jobs in this town are quite often about 13.00 per hour nowhere near min. wage. Kids pay no taxes making that the equivalent of a 20.00 an hr. job, and they live at home with no expenses and they still can't commit to the work. Min. wage for kids should be about 6.00 per hr. and about twenty for quality adults. Kids these days are a joke. They get out of school and want to travel the world. haha

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melba on Jun 28, 2014 at 6:57 am

YukonGirl, there were 3 places newly listed YESTERDAY on kijiji.ca offering 2 bedroom and 3 bedroom homes (not rooms in someone's house, but your own duplex), for an average rent of $1383. ($1250 to $1600).

Then you can also have your daughter look at the Whitehorse property rentals page on FB. Eight places available (apartments) currently, within the first/most recent 15 posts.

I am not sure why your daughter can't find a place to rent, but it is not a case of a lack of availability and none of these ads said 'no kids'. Babies in particular are not hard on places.

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yukon56 on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:20 am

Lets elect a communist government and have them supply housing to all? That would make the NDPers happy finally

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Exhausted on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:53 am

If cost of living is high, which it is, wages should go up. I'm working a full time job, with a wage that is considered "good" in the Yukon, and a second job a little over minimum wage, just to make ends meet. The Yukon doesn't seem to have much for jobs these days either. It's hard times for Yukoners, especially young residents who are trying to get on their feet.

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Yukoner 2 on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:26 am

Bruce you had me till your last comment. This is not a third world country and we as Canadians should not have to live like it is. As far as I'm concerned the migrant workers can go home and the lazy Canadians can work. We need to start building things here in north America and not elsewhere.

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Yukongirl on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:08 am

Trying to find a place to rent is a total joke in Whitehorse affordable or not. My daughter whom is going to be having her baby in August and her partner can not find a place no matter what. They don't drink or do drugs have no pets and don't smoke. Both are very respectful, but because they are young and are going to be having a child no one wants to even give them a chance. What a joke if you ask me. They just want to find a place before their baby comes into this world. Needless to say they have been looking even before my daughter got pregnant.

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Brice Carruthers on Jun 27, 2014 at 6:11 am

@ d.r. Your comment "If a person is sincerely working 35 hours a week they should be able to afford some semblance of a ‘typical Canadian lifestyle'" truly captures an elitist attitude. It's like you are saying that "those third world brown people can live the way they do, but I'm Canadian, darn it! I deserve better". The reality is nobody in this country deserves or is entitled to ANYTHING! You have to earn it and work for it PERIOD. Canadian society used to be based on work ethic. It is sad how far we have fallen. We now live in an entitlement culture where we prefer to subsist on government hand-outs, rather than picking ourselves up by the bootstraps and working. You see this attitude magnified in our youth today. When I was a kid I delivered newspapers for next to nothing. It wasn't much money, but it was a valuable lesson in the virtues of working and saving. Today's generation would rather play video games. I'll say it again....we have a lot to learn from our migrant worker neighbours. I see many of the so-called multi-generational working poor buying flats of beer at the liquor store, while their big rig is running in the parking lot, complaining in the same breath that they "can't afford rent”. Something is wrong with this picture.

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deeper reasons on Jun 27, 2014 at 4:40 am

I think North of 60 redefined the problem fairly accurately.

"We don't have a ‘affordable housing crisis' since ‘affordable housing' can be found for good tenants, even with minimum wage jobs, who won't destroy the property or create a nuisance with partying, and pay their rent on time every month.

Responsible people will find affordable housing. How to house the irresponsible remains a quandary."

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spud on Jun 27, 2014 at 3:30 am

May I salute Brice Carruthers, deeper reasons, and not in a hurry for their bang on comments.

I have never voted YLP but with their new leader and this recent positive decision, many of us will be voting YLP next time. I am a landlord and over many years have experienced tenants. My rents are less than market rate but my tenants don't move out. Recently sold a Riverdale home to my tenant who had rented from me for over 10 years. I have another tenant who has been with us for 14 Years. Yes they are Yukon Govt employees, professional and do not destroy my property thus they earn reduced rent.

The only winners with the original project would have been the developers, whoever they were, but those of us who have been around for a while know that many of these are greedy shysters and lack integrity. Nobody helped us purchase/build our rentals and I do not want my taxes assisting those people. Also, having said that, I do support some sort of affordable rents for those locked into low wages - Superstore for instance - where the low paid workers are forced to pay union dues - some get 10 hrs per week and it takes 5 hrs. work to pay their union dues.

Mr. Mayor, your comments don't help, quit supporting the big money developers and find solutions.

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Wayne on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:47 pm

If one is "paying off" a dwelling, then one doesn't "own" it.

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north of 60 on Jun 26, 2014 at 12:39 pm

Everyone wants low prices. In the face of rising costs including energy, materials, supplies, equipment, taxes, insurance and rent, one of the few ways a business can keep prices low is by keeping unskilled and semi-skilled wages low. If you want cheap fast food, it's going to be minimum wage earners serving you.

The excellent points Brice C makes are important in this context. The recent immigrants who largely fill these minimum wage service jobs are a valuable asset to our community. Unlike many of the residents that rejected those minimum wage jobs, recent immigrants are polite, hard-working, responsible, talented and cheerful people with strong community, spiritual, and family values. They don't expect the one wage for one home 'standard' that a lot assume they're entitled to. New families will happily live communally to share resources. They may start by renting a house, but they'll own it in a few years and use it to buy another.

They teach their kids good family values and the importance of an education. I doubt if there are many recent immigrants in Whitehorse who are homeless, drug-addicted street people, and they don't seem to be engaging in criminal activity or gangs. Even though they're earning the lowest wages, they manage to send some money 'back home' to family members who are less fortunate.

We don't have a 'affordable housing crisis' since 'affordable housing' can be found for good tenants, even with minimum wage jobs, who won't destroy the property or create a nuisance with partying, and pay their rent on time every month. Most landlords are happy to have tenants like that.

Responsible people will find affordable housing. How to house the irresponsible remains a quandary.

For affordable housing let the market decide. Don't spend tax money subsidizing the rich developers who make generous political contributions. Don't subsidize the rich; subsidize the hard-working responsible people juggling two or three minimum wage jobs, so they can afford basic housing.

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d.r. on Jun 26, 2014 at 12:35 pm

Hello Brice,

One way that people live on wages that are not sufficient is to live 12 to a house. In other words, replicating living conditions in the developing world. And it happens. In this town.

I do not believe it is acceptable to expect Canadian workers to live this way. If a person is sincerely working 35 hours a week they should be able to afford some semblance of a 'typical Canadian lifestyle'. If they CHOOSE to live 12 to a house to reach other goals or they enjoy that, fly at it.

More in line with your free market philosophies, wages are determined by supply and demand in a 'non-subsidized world'. That balance has been damaged in favor of corporations by programs which bring in foreign workers in many cases. Not to mention that Nominee workers for example have their wages supplemented in value big time by Canadian residency and eventual citizenship. So in that regard Canadian workers receive less compensation than Nominee Program workers.

I do think it is a bit out of control and we need to be having a discussion about how the Nominee Program may have already affected the wages of low income workers in Whitehorse.

The problem of 'unaffordable housing', must take into consideration whether people are receiving a sufficient income in the first place. Telling people who work full time to pile in and live under developing nation standards is not an acceptable solution to the problem.

I hope this helps to answer your 'big question' about how 'migrant workers' make ends meet while 'so-called multi-generational Canadians' do not seem to obedientlly adapt to the situation.

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June Jackson on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:11 am

*Not in a hurry* No.. I am not a landlord.. I am a senior renter, I don't smoke, drink, party, I do have a 10 lb. Shitzu which prevents me from applying for Yukon housing. My rent has been jacked every other year til I can't pay anymore. Instead, I went back to work.. 10 days older than god and working again. Prices in general have outpaced my ability to make the bills on my pension.

I agree 100% with you about the choice of who you rent to. My objection was the government giving money to contractors to build "affordable" housing. You want to be a landlord, build it yourself. Brice Carruthers also made an excellent point. Where I work, 3/4 of the staff are foreign workers. Nine of them live together in one small apartment. THAT'S how they make ends meet.

Canada is NOT a 3rd world hole where you should have to struggle for a meal on the table or pay 75% of your income for a roof. We are a rich country and residents have a right to expect a certain standard of living.

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deeper reasons on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:57 am

YTG worker, I am truly surprised that as a YTG worker you are only earning $36,000 a year. Thanks for letting me know.

That said, I am glad you managed to get a mortgage approved, and that you own your own home and are finding that cheaper than renting. Entry level houses in Whitehorse cost $325,000 which is $1600 a month in mortgage payments, plus $200 a month in water, sewer and taxes. $1800 a month. $700 off that goes to principle on the mortgage, so net $1100 goes out the window with the wind.

Considering that as a landlord, when you pay your place off and rent it to the next person, you will have to get a return of 2.2% to keep up with inflation, and another 1% to pay the income tax on that 2.2% (the government does not recognize inflation when you calculate your taxes), you will have to charge $10,400 a year to not lose money on your equity, plus $2400 a year to break even on your taxes, water and sewer (no homeowners grant for the landlord).

Oh, and make sure you put a little something aside for repairs and upkeep. The fridge will die, a pipes will leak, the floors will need to be redone, the paint... well you get the picture. Luckily a lot of the labour is free because you will be in there doing it.

Then there is the little issue of the place being empty now and then, take that missing rent right off the top.

So yeah, you are going to be a very generous landlord when you rent your house to some lucky person for $800! That will leave you at least $3200 in the hole each year, before any maintenance and repairs.

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Kenny Lindsay on Jun 26, 2014 at 8:38 am

It is difficult to see (or accept) just how much the Yukon Party mirrors the politics and ideals of the fed Conservatives. Some comments on this thread speak to people having accepted learned stereotypes of their neighbors, and fellow Yukoners.

We as a community cannot be so ignorant to see behind our own views! We all must recognize that there is a political and social background to situations such as Yukon`s housing crisis/matter, and all previous governments have helped create this mess. Still, it`s clear that conservative government policies are making the middle and lower classes poorer by negating access to more affordable housing, and maintaining low minimum wages.

With all that said, I wish Conservatives would practice a type of Conservative politic like Rolf Hougen, who has at least demonstrated integrity in that money earned by governments (or given...such as the Northern Housing Trust) needs to benefit the greater community, not just a select few who are friends of the ruling Party.

We all need to work to eat, First Nations knew no other way before outsiders came to this great place. Why then are we so blind to see the background of the situations we are in? Is it really impossible to hear, respect, and follow an idea different than one`s supporters? It`s a hard quality to find alright, but one can hope such skill can be demonstrated in our legislatures and chambers more and more.

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YTG worker on Jun 26, 2014 at 6:49 am

Oh I forgot my other point, $1500 a month is an example of landlords charging another person the costs associated with them either having two mortgages themselves (which they can't afford so pass the debt onto someone else) or a mortgage for a large home they couldn't afford in the first place. I am in the process of trying to pay off my home which I live in and own so I can then turn it into a rental property (like 10 years down the road) that way I can afford my new mortgage without relying on sucking the life out of my tenants. To me affordable should be $800 per month plus utilities or $1200 a month with utilities included. my basis for this price ranges is that is what it costs me currently to live in the home so this is the maximum amount I should be allowed to charge a tenant in future. There is way too much greed in this town.

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YTG worker on Jun 26, 2014 at 6:41 am

I am a government worker with a good paying job and $1500 a month would take half of my monthly income. The term 'affordable' needs to be looked at in a more realistic way considering the majority of people looking to rent are usually working 2 or 3 min wage jobs just to be able to afford rent. This doesn't include utilities, car insurance if they can afford a car, child care, food and other cost of living expenses...

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Brice Carruthers on Jun 26, 2014 at 6:39 am

@deeper reasons. My big question is how can migrant workers make ends meet and afford their rent, when the so-called multi-generational Canadian working poor cannot? Yet we do not see homeless migrant workers on the street or see them protesting and lamenting their situation. Perhaps we as a society need to look at what they do differently. I will submit to you that they have a different philosophy. Rent and food comes first; and tobacco, marijuana, alcohol, and motorized toys come second. That's the difference. They also pool their resources together to purchase homes. Their cultures don't have the notion of kicking the kids out of the nest or sending their parents to old folks' homes. We are so sanctimonious in the west, but we could learn a lot about priorities and making do with less from our migrant worker neighbours. Their lifestyle is more sustainable for the planet, not ours.

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Brice Carruthers on Jun 26, 2014 at 3:10 am

It is nice to see the Yukon Party listen to the constituents that put them in power. Blood Ties Four Directions and the Anti-poverty Coalition do not vote for the Yukon Party, so why should this Government placate these people with Communist-type subsidy plans? There are plenty of affordable rental units in Whitehorse. However, when the people that apparently can't afford rent, can afford $35 a day for a pack of cigarettes and a six pack of beer, you really have to question if we have an "affordable housing crisis" in Whitehorse. Go ahead Lefties....give me your thumbs down. I don't care, and at the end of the day the Government made the right decision. Let the market decide what is affordable, not left-wing social engineers.

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deeper reasons on Jun 26, 2014 at 1:35 am

22 years ago I paid $720 a month in today's dollars for a room in a house. I was going to university and working at an entry level job that paid $26 an hour in today's dollars. I had no thoughts that I was being ripped off and I managed my market rent no problem.

What I see in Whitehorse is a town where people who used to earn $25 an hour (at Extra Foods years ago), are now earning $12 an hour (at 'The Real Canadian' Superstore). Both owned by Westfair Foods/Loblaws. If people do not 'want the job', fine, Loblaws Corporation will get an LMO for a nominee worker to take the job, rather than putting the wage up.

Too many think it is the government's job to ensure that underpaid workers can get an apartment for cheap-cheap. I would say the real problem is at least largely due to the suppressed wages in Whitehorse for the 'working poor'.

In reality, rent has only increased 3% a year for the past 10 years, which is slightly above inflation (2% a year on average). This was reported recently.

Personally I believe that the minimum wage should be increased to reflect the cost of living up here and that our most vulnerable workers should not be undercut by the Nominee Program as has been happening in a huge way. Sorry to poke a hole in the happy-happy balloon, but it's about time we started talking about the thousands of people who have recently moved into Whitehorse to take low-wage jobs, thereby upsetting the supply and demand system that determines wages.

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Not in a hurry on Jun 25, 2014 at 3:42 pm

@ June:

Are you a landlord?

Would you give your rental suite in your own house, renovated with your own money (not subsidized) to everybody? Running after your rent every month? Getting back a filthy and damaged suite?

Starting renovating again and spend half of your rental income for it?

In my experience: It is very sad but at least 50 % of the tenants these days have a common attitude: It's not mine and I pay for it - so I can do what I want...

And do you know what: I have a nice, renovated 2 bedroom suite and it is rented out to a single government worker (long term). I'm not a contractor or business guy - just a simple home owner and I will choose my next tenant exactly like the current one and if I don't find one then the suite will stay empty!

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shameful on Jun 25, 2014 at 10:50 am

The working poor don't make contributions to Yukon Party, but builders and realtors do. I feel badly for people struggling to afford a decent home. $1500/month to me, is not 'affordable' as it's more than 50% of many people's take home pay. A young couple with a child, trying to save for a down payment for a home, just got another slap in the face from the Yukon Party. Remember this at election time.

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June Jackson on Jun 25, 2014 at 8:35 am

If anyone could agree on what was "affordable" we wouldn't need to look at giving contractors money so they can go into the rental business too.

One of my son's neighbors has a unit available for $1,500. a month and truly considers that affordable as he doesn't want to rent to anyone but government single, no pet, no kids, no smokers, no drinkers anyway and at $1,500. a month..those types don't come knocking.

When you say "affordable" what market are you aiming at?

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