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Opinions divided over meetings’ start time

Starting city council meetings at supper time is not a good idea, says Riverdale resident Kristina Calhoun.

By Chuck Tobin on February 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm

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Kristina Calhoun and Coun. Dave Stockdale

Starting city council meetings at supper time is not a good idea, says Riverdale resident Kristina Calhoun.

Calhoun addressed council Monday night about the proposal before council to move the weekly meetings from 7:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.

“I would like to ask council to please keep the time at 7:30,” said Calhoun. “At the very least, go no earlier than 7:00.

“I am asking that because family time is dinner time.”

For parents who have children with busy schedules, sitting around the supper table is sometimes the only chance they really get to talk during the day, Calhoun said.

“As a gesture of accommodating family values and encouraging consistent participation, I ask you to keep the time the same.”

A parent herself, Calhoun was no stranger to city council meetings last year.

She led the public lobby to allow backyard chickens as a means of promoting locally grown food products.

Calhoun also told council Monday there is documented evidence available suggesting people who work 11 hours without a break are 2 1/2 times more likely to suffer from depression.

The proposal to switch the time is included in revisions to the bylaw governing council procedures.

The bylaw received first and second readings Monday night. Third reading is scheduled for Feb. 13. Should it pass, the first 5:30 meeting would be Feb. 20.

The proposed time change arose out discussions among council members at their annual legislative workshop held last Dec. 16. The administrative report to council last week recommended the change.

Rob Fendrick, the city’s director of administrative services, said changing the time would increase accessibility to meetings by providing residents the opportunity of taking the bus to and from city hall before the transit service ends for the night.

It would also allow staff to work right through instead of going home after work and then having to return for the meeting, he said.

Mayor Bev Buckway said she’d like to give the new time slot a trial run for six months or so, and if doesn’t work out, it can be changed back before the October general election.

A different time with available transit service might attract a different cross-section of residents, she said.

“I would like to try it and see what a difference it makes.”

Coun. Kirk Cameron said he is neutral on the issue, but encouraged residents to email or phone him, because he wants to get a sense of how people feel about the proposal.

The councillor also asked city staff to issue a press release informing the public about the proposal.

Council, Cameron told his colleagues, does not want to get tarred with another accusation of trying to sneak through a major policy shift with no public notice, as it was accused of earlier that evening regarding the city’s trail plan initiative.

Councillors Betty Irwin and Ranj Pillai indicated their preference for maintaining the status quo.

Irwin said a handful of people have already told her a 5:30 start time would be inconvenient, as they have to deal with picking up kids or not getting off work until 5:30.

“I would support the procedures bylaw going forward but I do not support the time change,” said Pillai, indicating that with children of his own, he too has parental duties at supper time.

Coun. Dave Austin, on the other hand, pointed out that council meetings sometimes go past 11 p.m., and it would be nice to get home a little earlier.

But Coun. Dave Stockdale pointed out his wife had made him a nice dinner Monday evening.

He would not have been able to sit and enjoy it and relax for a bit afterward had the meeting started at 5:30, he told his colleagues.

Coun. Florence Roberts said it doesn’t make any difference to her what time the meetings start, because she’s committed either way.

There are many Monday nights, however, where there is not a soul sitting in the public gallery, she emphasized, while recognizing the 17 who were there this week.

“But I would really like to see what the public has to say and whether their participation will increase or decrease,” she said.

“If it makes a difference to an awful lot of people, then fine, you have two weeks to let us know.”

Calhoun never did win her battle for the chickens, as the zoning bylaw clearly stated no chickens in urban neighbourhoods.

City hall did promise to revisit, and is revisiting, the issue during the current review of the zoning bylaw.

Whether backyard chicken coops should be allowed is on the ballot.

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lisa

Feb 2, 2012 at 6:23 pm

Cmon c.o.w dont listen to chicken lady. Have the meetings earlier so we can finish up, and then the rest of evening can be family time. I vote 530

Al H Fedoriak

Feb 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm

It is not difficult to see which council members have had or are having the experience and responsibilities of responsible parenthood.  Certainly not our Mayor, that is clear by her acceptance of of a 5:30 pm start to Council Meetings. That void in life experience also is very evident in post of her decisions. Bev Whitehorse is made up of families many young families with children.  Dave Stockdale should be aware of parental responsibilities having spent most of his professional life in elementary schools but was hesitant for selfish reason. Betty Irwin and Ranj certainly know that they are there to serve the citizens and respect family responsibilities, Kirk Cameron wants public input, that is a good sign, Dave Austin well if the late hours bother him, he can set his own hours by not running come the next balloting.
Whether a person attends the meetings or watches them on television a 5:30 p.m.start is a bad time. If passed it shows a no regard for the people they serve. Wake up!, in this day and age families require two incomes to survive, they have dinners to prepare and children to hear out after their day in school, have you never heard of family time. The most important family time is from after work till after dinner about 7:30 pm in many cases.  Show some respect for the people you serve. If you don’t like the hours resign, or maybe this is just a scheme for city administrators to get us to buy them dinner for the continuous service on Mondays, or do we already do that?

Yukonraised

Feb 2, 2012 at 8:13 pm

I think that city council should be able to move to an earlier time, for the exact same reasons Ms. Calhoun. They probably have families that they would like to spend time with. I understand that they know what they got into when the got in it, such as late long meetings, but if possible why can’t they have the meetings earlier?

lisa

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:45 am

Seriously?  this is what city council is worrying about, meeting start times?  i’m positive they have bigger things to worry about

flyingfur

Feb 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm

I’m all for paying “family time” the respect it’s due but in reality “family time” for my family also includes frequent evenings when kids/parents activities fall right on or around the dinner hour and we make due with dinner earlier or later.  If people really want to be there then they’ll make similar plans.  On another note, it does not bode well for how the meetings go if we cannot even decide on what time they should start.  Holy C.O.W.!

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