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ON BORROWED TIME – The days of scavenging through the free store at the city’s landfill may be over.

Sally Ann, Raven feeling store’s closure

The temporary closure of the free store at the city’s landfill could soon become permanent.

By Stephanie Waddell on November 9, 2016

The temporary closure of the free store at the city’s landfill could soon become permanent.

City staff are recommending council approve the facility’s permanent closure.

The site at the landfill served as a spot where residents could drop off reusable goods they no longer want and pick up items others had left if they wanted.

It was closed temporarily last April 7 after a hypodermic needle was found in a pile of items that had been left there.

As Dave Albisser, the city’s manager of waste services, said at last night’s council meeting: “Since the reuse store closed, both Raven Recycling and Salvation Army have reported a marked increase in the amount of donations dropped off at their respective locations.

“Due to the increased volumes, Salvation Army stopped accepting donations for a short period, while Raven Recycling added staff to attempt to better handle the influx of goods.”

Raven also operates a free store at its site in Marwell. The Salvation Army accepts donations that are later sold in its downtown shop.

Last May, the city gathered stakeholders together to look at reuse in the city and what the future could hold for it.

Space, public awareness and staffing were the top three priorities identified.

A stakeholder group was then started to look at how to proceed. It included representatives from Raven, the Salvation Army, the Mae Bachur Animal Shelter, Zero Waste Yukon, Habitat For Humanity and Yukonstruct.

“While the reuse stakeholder group had many ideas/discussions, no one organization has the capacity to take the lead on this initiative,” the report says.

“In addition, none of the ideas discussed were adequate to address the significant lack of space and co-ordination that is required to handle and distribute reusable goods.

“As a result, the city has not been successful in finding a community-based solution for reuse within the current budget.

“While the work on finding a solution to community reuse will continue, the operation of the reuse store presents considerable health and safety risks.”

It’s estimated only 10 per cent of the items that went into the free store were actually reused, the report adds. Many items made their way to and from the free store time and time again – or just didn’t leave the store.

Albisser acknowledged in his presentation though that this is simply a rough estimate based on observations.

“The result was an unhygienic and unsafe mixture of too many goods (some hazardous) that then needed to be landfilled,” Albisser stated in his report.

“It is likely that the same issues have arisen at Raven Recycling’s reuse store and Salvation Army.

“As such, the city’s reuse store, as an unstaffed shed open to any and all public donations, is both an unsafe and ineffective form of reuse.”

While free stores can be a way to divert waste from the landfill, it’s unclear how much waste diversion actually occurs. That’s because it’s difficult to measure, and such facilities often receive both low- and high-quality goods.

Each type of material also has different handling and space requirements, says the report to council.

It was also pointed out there are already a number of reuse options in the city in the form of local shops like the Changing Gear sports store that recently opened, and the Sequels clothing store, among others.

Also available are online options like Kijiji and Buy and Sell groups on Facebook. Those options are frequented by many locals.

“Since the basic requirements to address the operation of the reuse store are space and staff, the city is currently unable to offer the resources needed to appropriately handle this material,” Albisser said in bringing forward the recommendation.

“The reuse store does not have sufficient resources to offer a safe and effective service that contributes to waste diversion.”

As council members debated the pros and cons of closing the reuse store for good, both Albisser and Bryna Cable, an environmental co-ordinator with the city, emphasized that the work of finding a way to allow for safe reuse options for the entire community will continue.

It was clear, though, that a solution has yet to be found.

Cable pointed to the idea that came from discussions with stakeholders about the potential for one-stop shop for reuse.

Albisser pointed out that each type of material – from e-waste to textiles to construction materials and others – have different space and handling needs. He said it would prove difficult to keep them all in one site.

“I think there’s many, many solutions,” he said.

Council members appeared conflicted on the issue too.

Councillors Jocelyn Curteanu and Rob Fendrick, who attended the meeting by conference call, cited the benefits of options being available for residents who want to pass on items others could use. They also mentioned the importance of reusing to keep waste out of the landfill.

Meanwhile, Mayor Dan Curtis voiced his support for the points made in Albisser’s report around the need for safety, options already available for reuse through the private sector and online options, as well as the ongoing work to find better solutions.

“I’m encouraged by the direction we’re going,” he said.

In separate interviews this morning, the executive directors of both the Raven Recycling Society and the local Salvation Army said the ongoing closure is continuing to impact each of their organizations. They also cited the work underway to find a solution.

“We sort of knew it was coming,” Joy Snyder of Raven commented of the potential permanent closure.

Raven has been able to add a bit more space and devote more staff time to its free store in light of the increased volumes coming in.

However, Snyder said that volume remains an issue. Consequently, applications have been put in for funding that would help more accurately look at the volumes arriving and leaving and devote a staff position to the free store.

The issue, though, is not unique to Whitehorse.

Snyder has attended conferences focused on reuse, with delegates coming from around the world in the hopes of finding a solution to the amount of goods that continue to accumulate.

The development of big box stores selling cheap goods has changed local consumer habits.

That has a big impact on the amount of items coming in, Snyder noted.

Even before the city’s free store closed last April, she noted, there was an obvious escalation in the amount of goods being toted in to Raven’s free store.

At the Salvation Army, Ian MacKenzie said the increase has meant a packed storage space and greater difficulty processing goods to get them to the storefront.

MacKenzie was asked whether any staff time has been added to simply processing the goods since April, when the city’s free store closed.

He said it hadn’t, noting that the store operates on a tight budget.

Money from the store goes to other services the Sally Ann offers in the city – the shelter, the soup kitchen and the like.

“It has certainly had an impact on us,” MacKenzie said of the city store’s closure. Discussions to find an overall answer, though, have been positive, he added.

“I’m optimistic,” he said, noting he believes a “workable solution” will eventually be found.

Council will vote next week on the potential disappearance of the city’s free store.

Comments (16)

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Mark on Nov 15, 2016 at 7:11 pm

So if I put a couch on my lawn and put a "free" sign on it, are you saying that if someone throws out their back,I'm liable? Not a chance in hell! You see, they'd be on my property and a trespassing threat would most likely trump a liable case. Point being....there is a sign entering the landfill site regarding everyone's personal responsibility while on this city property. I'm no lawyer but I'd think the city is covered.

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Mr M on Nov 12, 2016 at 6:58 pm

Hey Josie. Just saying that if new firetrucks are not bought that our insurance rates go up costing the consumer more money. Love your comments. I believe the store at the dump should stay open or the tipping fees reduced. Just to get back on topic.

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Just Say'in on Nov 12, 2016 at 3:47 pm

@Fed up Yukoner. You are correct on all the needless waste. How about the thousands and thousands of perfectly good Fuel Tanks. Insurance companies forcing the change due to liability even though they have no intension of accepting said liability. All the carbon that was used to manufacture and ship them where are the greenies on this issue?

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Josey Wales on Nov 12, 2016 at 6:20 am

MR M...I know fire trucks are very pricey, hence keeping our old ones.
If someone desires to build a building higher than our codes allow, then perhaps the user pay idea should kick in.
Nobles giving away our assets is an on going issue, as they truly feel it is their stuff to give away...it is not.
Not just a fire truck, it happens often that some fool thinks a special interest needs something...here have this, we have lots more where that comes from, human PEZ dispensers for cash we lean on them every time we want.
Yes I do know the costs, down up thumbs to me...are irrelevant but thanks I guess.

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June Jackson on Nov 11, 2016 at 6:08 pm

I totally agree with posters here..the free store doesn't have to be so complicated ..you have an item, drop it off, someone else picks said item up.. Unwanted additions to the item.? It is the shoppers responsibility to inspect that item..I know of two instances where a person got more than they bargained for..one picked up a printer and with it a bag of cables etc etc. by the rime she got home realized she also had a snake that crawled out of the printer and got loose in her apartment. The other had needles. Wrapped up in the sleeves of a coat. So..I think the store should be open, but shopper beware.

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Fed up Yukoner on Nov 11, 2016 at 9:55 am

It's not just the big box stores that help create this problem. Look at Yukon Energy giving rebates to replace perfectly good fridges because they supposedly use less energy. Huge waste of space in landfills and the incredible amount of electronics. Finding one needle and flipping out is ridiculous, put up a sign for folks to be mindful or better yet the suggestion of having Challenge or some other organization contracted to look after the free store then stuff will be sorted before it opens so totally useless stuff is not going back to the community. Actually creating jobs for its citizens is a foreign concept, the city would much rather pay a bureaucrat 10 times as much studying the issue, its amazing to me how much more garbage is being created than 30 years ago. Time to start charging manufacturers for the amount of packaging, why do you need 3 layers of packaging for a tiny piece of electronics? Bottom line, keep the free store, spend a few bucks on it.

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Dj on Nov 11, 2016 at 8:45 am

While I am on the subject of safety and the cities liability....please don't think for one second that it is not lost on me how I must legally keep my sidewalk(which technically is owned by the city) clear from snow and ice while 2ft further is my street....the street which in my three years here has seen a plow an average of 1.333 times per winter. Late in the winter you actually step down on to the sidewalk from the street because of the compacted snow and ice in the street. How the city isn't sued over snow and ice is beyond me.

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Mr M on Nov 11, 2016 at 8:41 am

Hey Josey I agree with what you say for the most part but the part of a million dollar fire truck. Have you priced out a fire truck (probably not). If you get a ladder truck you are looking at close to a million dollars. So before you talk you should get some of your facts straight. Just saying sometimes you rant on and don't make a lot of sense and sometimes you do. I gave your comment a thumbs up.

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Dj on Nov 11, 2016 at 8:41 am

Last year I found a needle on the side of the milenium trail. Close it or I'll sue. Safe injection sites or safe dumping sites.
How many dirty rusty nails are on the ground at the dump around those bins...every time I go there I am aware of the fact that I am at a dump...there may be unsafe...dangerous and yes even dirty things at the dump...thought that was common sense to use caution at a dump...although I suppose common sense seems to be a rarity in society today. I think the dump is unsafe.

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jc on Nov 10, 2016 at 4:08 pm

Yeah Martin, I remember the good old days when shopping at the dump mart was fun. And there were so many cool things to take home. But the environmental conscious government had a better idea, bury everything.

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Nanaimo Stef on Nov 10, 2016 at 2:15 am

Here in Nanaimo, if we want to dispose of goods, we do it by giving them to a local charity or taking them to a local recycling depot. I appreciate that in a big city, we may have choices not available in Whitehorse, but taking goods to a "free store" at the dump never made sense to me even when I lived in Whitehorse.

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martin on Nov 9, 2016 at 6:05 pm

I agree with Josey Wales; it is has got too complicated at the dump. Maybe Council should consider going back to the 80's- early 90's when the dump was open to the public and there was not liabilities for the City

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jc on Nov 9, 2016 at 5:33 pm

Raven and Sally Anne are so much closer to drop things off. And you don't have to go through the nonsense checkpoint.

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martin on Nov 9, 2016 at 5:30 pm

I agree with Josey Wales.

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Groucho d'North on Nov 9, 2016 at 4:12 pm

I suspect the real issue is the City's lawyers advised against it due to any liability exposure if somebody gets stuck with a needle or takes home a dose of lice in clothing or furnishings. Too bad, I have rescued and passed on a number of home entertainment products that worked just fine after they had a fuse replaced or freed a stuck CD. Nobody fixes things anymore- easier to run out and buy a new one.

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Josey Wales on Nov 9, 2016 at 3:12 pm

Gee...sure seems so so very complicated to give stuff away to folks perhaps in need. Funny once the government gets involved it goes to stupid in seconds.
Wow a needle in some free stuff gets it shut down...unfreakingreal!
Question, when is the downtown core getting "closed"?
I mean if public safety is the issue, the enablers created quite a mess in town heaps of whacked out pisstanks milling about.
I guess the regular dangers are OK as it keeps the lawyers working, swank new meat wagons bought, the hospital staff stressed out, our tax free Sally Ann..their empire clearly grew, free money to give away to ngo's etc.
All those things seem to be our economy around here.
Anyone at city hall ever wonder why so many folks shop there? Perhaps by necessity as this place by design is very pricey to live...thanks council, thanks SIMA, thanks a effin' myriad of special interests

We have so much up here we can buy million dollar fire truck... user pay?
And give our assets away to folks here in town, waaay down south.
Striving for lunacy, goal met loooooooong ago.

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