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Peter Long, Doug Gonder and Coun. Betty Irwin

Decision on quarry put off for several weeks

It will be another six weeks before city council considers a proposed amendment to the city’s Official Community Plan (OCP) that would move forward plans for a quarry.

By Stephanie Waddell on March 28, 2017

It will be another six weeks before city council considers a proposed amendment to the city’s Official Community Plan (OCP) that would move forward plans for a quarry.

The proposed quarry would be developed on vacant Commissioner’s land next to the Utah Siding yard on the Alaska Highway south of Robert Service Way.

Norcope Construction has applied for the OCP designation change from mixed use-industrial to industrial for the 21.6-hectare piece of land in the area across from the Mount Sima Road.

At Monday’s council meeting, council voted 6-1 to put off first reading on the OCP change, following a request by Norcope owner Doug Gonder to defer it.

Coun. Betty Irwin was the lone vote against putting off the decision.

She argued a quarry in that area is not appropriate. She highlighted concerns the city has already heard around the impact to the Miles Canyon area and to wilderness in the area, concerns brought forward by First Nations, and other issues.

Irwin said she’d rather vote on the OCP change last night than defer the decision.

In a presentation at the beginning of last night’s meeting, Gonder asked that council defer the decision.

The deferral, he explained, would give Norcope a chance to gather and bring forward more information on the proposal.

A number of questions around the project came up when the OCP designation was brought forward last week, Gonder noted, and a deferral would give Norcope time to look at those issues.

Tyler Heal, an engineer with Stantec, which is working with Norcope on the project, appeared with Gonder at last night’s meeting.

Heal told council there’s been additional work to pull back the boundaries to allow for an expanded buffer.

A meeting is scheduled with the Ta’an Kwäch’än Council, which has already made a submission to the city opposing the plans.

Gonder said there are also plans to have 3D mapping of the area done to provide a better idea of what the impact to the site would be.

That will address concerns that have come up around the view of the area and future development after the end of the quarry’s life.

Responding to a question from Coun. Samson Hartland, Gonder said it will take at least two weeks to do the work he’s planning to get the additional information to council.

Administration will then need more time to prepare a report on the OCP change; hence the six weeks before it will come back to council.

While council was willing to defer the matter, it was acknowledged there are issues that will need to be dealt with.

Coun. Roslyn Woodcock said she isn’t in favour of the proposal going ahead if access to the site is from Miles Canyon Road.

Woodcock also wants to see support from local First Nations with settlement land in the area.

Similarly, Hartland said he would have trouble agreeing to the change without support expressed by First Nations.

Outside council chambers after the meeting, Gonder said the company would not be able to have access to the site directly off the Alaska Highway, given the Yukon government’s plans for highway improvements.

However, he noted the company will be looking at other possibilities. Those include an access that had been previously considered through the Yukon Siding yard.

“There’s some options,” Gonder said.

He also emphasized plans to discuss the proposal with any interested parties, including First Nations, and noted the ongoing need for gravel in the city.

With the exception of Irwin, council members noted their support for putting off first reading of the OCP change.

They highlighted that it’s the proponent who is looking for more time to bring forward additional information and gain support for the project.

Councillors Dan Boyd and Rob Fendrick noted they’d be interested in looking at the potential site line and noise impacts from nearby areas like Miles Canyon, a popular spot for tourists and locals.

Also making a presentation at the meeting was Hillcrest resident Peter Long, who spoke out against the plans.

Long heads up the Whitehorse Walks website. He argued a quarry at that site would have a negative impact for those wanting to take in the Miles Canyon area, including the numerous trails that lead to the McRae area and those along the Yukon River.

“We should be thinking about future recreational trails along the river,” he said.

What if some year, he asked, the White Pass and Yukon Route rail corridor is declared out of bounds?

With a big slope on one side of the tracks and a big quarry on the other, Long said, this could be a major impediment to city recreational trail plans such as a Yukon River trail.

He urged council to vote down the OCP change, arguing Miles Canyon’s scenic value can last forever if the surrounding areas are not spoiled.

Meanwhile, also on the quarrying front, the Yukon Environmental Socio-economic Assessment Board (YESAB) this morning issued a recommendation that the city’s proposal for a renewal and expansion of its gravel quarry lease in the MacLean Lake area go ahead.

It would see the quarry lease for the current 3.64 hectares renewed along with an 8.8-ha. expansion that would be phased in over 10 years.

“Under s. 58(1)(a) of the Yukon Environmental and Socio-economic Assessment Act, the Whitehorse designated office (of YESAB) recommends to the decision body for the project that the project be allowed to proceed, as it determined that the project will not have significant adverse environmental effects in or outside the Yukon,” reads the conclusion included in the recommendation released today.

Comments (16)

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Arturs on Apr 4, 2017 at 4:51 am

What is wrong with the gravel quarry he had up off the copper haul road? The one where the guy burned up in the trailer nobody was supposed to be living in.

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Capitan on Apr 3, 2017 at 10:40 am

I can't believe this application even got this far. Every time someone applies for a gravel quarry, they say the price will go up if they can't be four miles from town, there will be a shortage...these guys are getting land rich with these arguments and each one that gets approved helps the next one. "Why him and not me?" For people who want to say there's no impact to surrounding land uses, well, there is. Nobody wants to hang around the vicinity of a gravel quarry. The footprint is much larger than the boundary of the lease.

But tourists will just think, guess that's the way they do things up here. Resource town. They're only here for a few hours.
I'd like to know how it got past YESAA. There's clearly a clash of values here. There's gravel all around Whitehorse. Clearly. Since despite the desperate claims, there's always one more site to apply for. They seem to take delight in pushing the envelope.

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north_of_60 on Apr 1, 2017 at 8:40 pm

So, if I see some public land that I'd like to develop into a quarry, it's OK for me to bulldoze a road into it, dig pits and leave the place a mess with no repercussions, or is that just for people with friends in high places? Why isn't this Gonder person being charged?

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Atom on Mar 31, 2017 at 12:56 pm

S Miller......since you can't operate a motorized vehicle in this little city of ours due to nimby, tree toters and weak, ambitious Councillors, it's pretty tough to read submissions from folks who try and equate a large crater with an ATV...give it a rest, thanks.
Doug is not into following rules and he has already carved up a piece of this area without any permissions to do so.
Next thing he'll be driving his ghastly ATV all over it! Get on it City.

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Stanley Miller on Mar 31, 2017 at 12:23 pm

Is the City open for business
"or are we just playing? This shows the City OCP is a mess and not working, because it can be overruled any time anyone wants to."

I agree the city will override the OCP with setbacks and motorized trails in ESAs and likely this quarry in an area that should be protected because councillors do not follow the guidelines to protect these areas.

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Is the City open for business on Mar 31, 2017 at 10:40 am

or are we just playing? This shows the City OCP is a mess and not working, because it can be overruled any time anyone wants to.

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Groucho d'North on Mar 29, 2017 at 4:30 pm

Mr. Mungus, I don't care, i'ts not my proposal. If other deposit options exist, the regulator may be the best one to redirect Mr. Gonder's interests, but I'll bet he'll find similar resistance anywhere he requests a permit. We're the wilderness city dammit, who cares how much a cubic meter of concrete should cost?

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Hugh Mungus on Mar 29, 2017 at 2:42 pm

@ Groucho d'North you are aware that there are millions of gravel deposits in areas that aren't within eyeshot of historic Miles Canyon?

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Stanley Miller on Mar 29, 2017 at 1:24 pm

Follow the money.
Friend of mine once told me that city councilors in an Ontario city bought up land they knew had good gravel deposits. They became wealthy because the gravel there is a valuable commodity. I assume the same is true here.

Tourism and relations with First Nation is very important in this town. Sometimes the city has to say no and protect areas. The city routinely approves motorized trails in Environmentally Sensitive Areas that they know people want to protect.

Enough is enough. You should not be allowed to run your sled or ATV or put a gravel pit in some areas, they need to be protected for the wildlife that use them forever- I know this is a difficult concept for many to understand when there is money to be made.

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moe on Mar 29, 2017 at 11:10 am

The city has just applied for an 8.8 hectare expansion to its long running 3.6 hectare gravel quarry, yet Doug Gonder needs 21 hectares (52 acres) to be given to him from prime recreational land right in the middle of the city for his gravel quarry.

How did Doug obtain the 20 acres of land he is selling beside Whistle Bend?

This project stinks in more ways than one. Aside from destroying high value land and having an army of gravel trucks coming and going from Miles Canyon, it looks like another massive land grab.

Way too many unanswered questions such as who will own the land during and after the gravel quarry's operation, what will the restoration fund for the land look like, how much of the surrounding forest will the dust kill, where will the trucks enter and exit from, what is the noise level of a gravel quarry, what animals are going to be affected, etc. I wonder if these are the questions that will be answered after this postponement. Betty is the only councilor who as usual, gets it. This project is not good and people don't want it.

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Groucho d'North on Mar 29, 2017 at 11:08 am

Mr. Miller, you are aware that the best place for a gravel quarry is where there is a deposit of gravel, rather than where the long list of experts decide it would be acceptable to their concerns?

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BnR on Mar 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm

Some things to consider.
Didn't we just go through a fairly controversial process to expand the gravel pits over by McLean lake?
Isn't the Ear lake area slated for reclamation? Why on earth would we create another quarry area adjacent to it?
Didn't CofW learn anything from the whole Meadow Lakes golf course subdivision land grab fiasco?
Last summer, Norcope went ahead and started punching a road into this site. You can still see the barricades to it by the Utah transfer site. Was Norcope fined for this, or can anyone built roads on public land?
If the intent of the CofW is to develop this land, I bet we can get better return for the city as a whole if we ask for proposals on this land rather than give it to Norcope.
Smell the money.

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Erik on Mar 28, 2017 at 5:52 pm

I drove in to where he wants to put the quarry last fall. He has made a huge mess there all ready, knocked trees down and left them lying in the bush, exposed soils everywhere he has gone so that erosion will wash soils away, dug holes and left them unmarked and not backfilled, and constructed an access off of the Utah Transfer road without permission. I say that this contractor does not follow the rules and should not be trusted to do so if he is given a permit. The area is (was before he went there) undisturbed and should remain that way. There is a lot of gravel available at Mclean Lake, at the old tank farm and on the north side of town from Castle Rock and Cee and Cee.

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Say NO on Mar 28, 2017 at 5:05 pm

As Miles Canyon is one of the ONLY tourist attractions in Whitehorse, please don't let it become a gravel pit. If Norcope gets its way, Miles Canyon will be surrounded by ugly quarry pits. In fact, why isn't the City or YTG putting some money into the area...fixing up the steep, broken steps/broken hand rails that is just a liability waiting to happen, expanding the parking lot so there is ample room for tourists and others. Hard to believe this is one of Whitehorse's best attractions....soon to be a new and improved quarry!

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joe and Jane on Mar 28, 2017 at 3:30 pm

Hey I want some of that vacant commissioner land too! How do I get access to that property?

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Stanley Miller on Mar 28, 2017 at 3:12 pm

It's nice to see that the city wants to ensure that the interests of tourists and the people who use the Miles Canyon area and First Nations are considered.
There has to be other sites for a quarry that do not go against intend of the OCP and interests of land owners.

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